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Grave Security Concerns Over Commander-in-Chief's Fraternizing With the Enemy

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posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 03:22 AM
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OK, you may claim that the American military's rules against fraternizing with the enemy do not apply to the Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces, but those rules were implemented for very valid reasons which acknowledge that such fraternization is certainly not in the best interests of our country... and this concept certainly should apply to the dealings of our very shady, sketchy President with very shady, sketchy Russian officials and nationals.

It has very recently come out that President Donald Trump had a one-hour private meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin during the G20 with only one other person present, a Russia supplied translator.

This could not possibly be considered a meeting of diplomacy because:

1.) the White House initially did not disclose this meeting;

2.) there was no "read-out" by any representative of our government briefing the world on what transpired in this meeting;

3.) The Donald, by his pretty established pattern of behavior toward things of a Russian nature, had a private meeting right in the Oval Office with Russian big wigs which excluded the American press;

4.) The Donald, at that Oval Office meeting, like a sieve and as freely as uncontrolled, explosive diarrhea blurted out top-secret intelligence information to those Russian officials;

5.) The Donald, his family and cronies have been far less than forthcoming regarding their relationships and meetings with Russians while indulging in lies, lies, and more lies on top of lies plus total disregard for proper disclosure on governmental forms as required by law under penalty of criminal law.

Former Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Wendy Sherman was interviewed on MSNBC last night. Among other dire warnings about this fraternization, Ms. Sherman said of the private meeting between Trump and Putin: “It’s absolutely worrying... but a one-hour meeting with only one translator??? ... grave security concerns...” Himmmm, "grave security concerns," this on just the issue of there being only one Russian translator present.

Dear Trumpists: don’t you see where this is leading? If you had any hopes of anything positive coming out of a Trump administration, don’t you see at this late date that the only thing that you can expect to come from The Donald is to be screwed over as have so many others been in The Donald’s past?

edit on 19-7-2017 by theworldisnotenough because: Corrected misspelling.




posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 03:35 AM
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I'm not a trump supporter, lol as if that needs to be stated.
It should be noted that this meeting took place at the dinner table. They were not alone together in a private setting.

However, only one interpreter was present. Putin's English translator.
They apparently chatted tableside for an hour.
The others on the room found it odd.

The issue is once again transparency.
Why are we finding out about this from some outside source instead of the Whitehouse?
Why wouldn't they tell us about this.

I'm beginning to see why trumps father sent him off to military school.
He's a sneak he lies and he hides stuff. You just can't trust him.
And it's not that it's just happened once. No, it's constant.
Lie lie hide, sneak.....


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posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 03:36 AM
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a reply to: theworldisnotenough

How exactly did you decide that Putin and Russia are the 'enemy'?

What metric are you using?



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 03:38 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

How exactly did you decide that Putin and Russia are the 'enemy'?

What metric are you using?


MSM directive #1.

If Russia is the enemy, why come there is non partisan support and monies changing hands from all past administrations?



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 03:44 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Since you veered ever so slightly from your hard partisan line, I shall enlighten you a tad.



The issue is once again transparency. Why are we finding out about this from some outside source instead of the Whitehouse? Why wouldn't they tell us about this.


The answer is because it is embarrassing. Jr went looking for information (even if thought to be a slim chance) to further the campaign or to hand over to law enforcement (doubtful).

Perhaps if the last administration was also more transparent, these channels wouldn't need be used. Just my 2cp.



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 03:46 AM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Oh maybe by being awake.

When did you decide they were not.

Research would help dude. They are not our friends and they will use trump like a cheap whore.
They only want what's best for Putin . He's a murderer. Not some stupid conspiracy theory like that Clinton #.
This is real.
Russia is poor and desperate and they benefit from a USA that is isolated.
They benefit from our stripped down to nothing state department.
They want to expand and a weakened NATO alliance is Christmas to them.

Time to leave the conspiracy theory world dude. The real world is a much scarier place.
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posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 03:49 AM
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a reply to: JinMI

This is another meeting. In Germany.
Not the meeting in trump tower where they made their agreements to accept Russia's help in return for favors.


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posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 03:51 AM
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a reply to: theworldisnotenough

I heard Trump told Putin privately he'd have more flexibility after winning his second term. What a Traitor.



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 03:57 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme




It should be noted that this meeting took place at the dinner table. They were not alone together in a private setting.


Same scenario applies, no?



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:05 AM
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Trumps one-hour private meeting with Putin is a security concern, don’t you see where this is leading? ...


Can we rule out the possibility the Russians replaced Trump with a clone...?



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:06 AM
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.....yawnnnn..

We get it already.. the economy is going to collapse HARD. These distractions are really getting boring.

Just



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:08 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

How exactly did you decide that Putin and Russia are the 'enemy'?

What metric are you using?


I choose not to mince words over "enemy." You can say, "pot-tay-toes," while I say, "poe-tat-toes," as much as you want. I choose not to care at this point.

What should not escape your attention and consideration is how this seeming unholy relationship between Trump and Putin will affect the morale of the rank and file of the U.S. military.

Even the commissioned officers up the chain of command must be scratching their heads wondering, in light of fraternization between Trump and Putin, "What the L am I doing here?"

Anybody who chooses to join the all-volunteer military under these circumstances will have to be an idiot.

Trump is destroying the recruitment capabilities of the U.S. Armed Forces. (I already noted that Trump has been ruining the stature of the U.S. in the eyes of the rest of the world; his behavior at the G20 Summit really, really deepened that hole, and as the country's stature diminishes so goes the perceive value of U.S. currency.)



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:12 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Metallicus

Oh maybe by being awake.

When did you decide they were not.

Research would help dude. They are not our friends and they will use trump like a cheap whore.
They only want what's best for Putin . He's a murderer. Not some stupid conspiracy theory like that Clinton #.
This is real.
Russia is poor and desperate and they benefit from a USA that is isolated.
They benefit from our stripped down to nothing state department.
They want to expand and a weakened NATO alliance is Christmas to them.

Time to leave the conspiracy theory world dude. The real world is a much scarier place.


What if Trump approached Putin and implored: "Hey, pal, I really need your advise. The American press is really hostile to me. What do I do? What do I do?" And what if Putin replied: "In Moootha Roooshia, we handle things quite differently... here's what to do...?"



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:15 AM
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One of Putins goals is to humiliate America the way Russia was humiliated when the Soviet Union collapsed. So yes, Russia is an enemy.
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posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:19 AM
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originally posted by: theworldisnotenough

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

How exactly did you decide that Putin and Russia are the 'enemy'?

What metric are you using?


Trump is destroying the recruitment capabilities of the U.S. Armed Forces. (I already noted that Trump has been ruining the stature of the U.S. in the eyes of the rest of the world; his behavior at the G20 Summit really, really deepened that hole, and as the country's stature diminishes so goes the perceive value of U.S. currency.)


Seriously? ...... seriously...?

What you discounted is the awakening of the general public to all this complete BS.

The paradigm is shifting... the status quo and the narrative is being shattered- thank God!!

You think our military and their leaders are foaming at the mouth for more war??? More enemies??? More conflicts??? That's insane! The military's main objective is to preserve the constitution and save lives.

If there is a short fall in recruitment, it's due to the wool being pulled from the eyes of the masses.

People aren't buying it anymore, politically or economically.
edit on E31America/ChicagoWed, 19 Jul 2017 04:25:11 -05007amWednesdayth04am by EternalShadow because: a correction



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:20 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

How exactly did you decide that Putin and Russia are the 'enemy'?

What metric are you using?


generally an ally sides with you on issues, the enemy not so much.

recent examples would be in the ukraine, the west and america supported a guy who's a fan of nato, putin invaded, not exactly what bosom buddies do normally.
the west wanted to remove a dictator from syria, russia are propping him up.
venezuela bumped up oil prices, the west attempted a coup, after that failed we enforced an embargo and use it as the only reason socialism doesn't work yet, russia supports the government.


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posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:22 AM
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originally posted by: theworldisnotenough

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

How exactly did you decide that Putin and Russia are the 'enemy'?

What metric are you using?


I choose not to mince words over "enemy." You can say, "pot-tay-toes," while I say, "poe-tat-toes," as much as you want. I choose not to care at this point.

What should not escape your attention and consideration is how this seeming unholy relationship between Trump and Putin will affect the morale of the rank and file of the U.S. military.

Even the commissioned officers up the chain of command must be scratching their heads wondering, in light of fraternization between Trump and Putin, "What the L am I doing here?"

Anybody who chooses to join the all-volunteer military under these circumstances will have to be an idiot.

Trump is destroying the recruitment capabilities of the U.S. Armed Forces. (I already noted that Trump has been ruining the stature of the U.S. in the eyes of the rest of the world; his behavior at the G20 Summit really, really deepened that hole, and as the country's stature diminishes so goes the perceive value of U.S. currency.)


Over 15 years active duty here. Just sent in my re-up package.

We're not at war with Russia, as long as we continue to not be at war with countries that have nuclear weapons, I don't care how many meetings they have.

I was much more upset with Obama being friendly with the terrorist orginisation Muslim Brotherhood and giving hero's welcomes to deserters and traitors who's actions directly resulted in the deaths of fellow service members.


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posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:26 AM
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a reply to: watchitburn

Exactly.



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posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:26 AM
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Since when has the the President of 2 countries talking become ''Fraternising''?

I'm amazed how quickly America has fallen, I'm not talking about your president either. I'm talking about your loyalty, common sense, patience and self respect for your flag!

You pledge allegiance to the American flag and swear to defend the United States, yet you cheer on any attempt to tear down your democratically elected leader, because the god damn TV says so!!

Trump, Putin and every single other leader should talk every week! More if required.
Anyone who says 2 leaders discussing important topics like ISIS, Global Warming, Terrorism, International Trade, Space Research, Energy Research..... fraternising.... should be treated like a threat!



posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:26 AM
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Butt hurt over an after dinner meeting? I didnt see the same outrage with obamas antics (as another poster pointed out). The left is going to do everything they can to keep russia in the news until the midterms while obstructing any chance they get.

The mindset of Democrats - "Lets burn the place down and hope the people will higher us t fix it" doesnt work.

Democrats need to stop using the term resistance. They are, in fact, a 5th column.
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