Originally posted by JADESTONE
Romans for their decipline, Mongols for stratergy.
U are free to add any new contenders.
I'd have to say that I think the army of alexander under alexander would defeat any roman or mongol army put against it. However thats probably far
too specific, and its patently obvious what happens when a generalized post-alexandrian phalanx meets up with even primitive roman legions (keeping in
mind tho that the sucessor generals were supposed to have allowed their phalanxes to 'degenerate' to something less than the setup Philip and
THe onyl real way to look at it is to look at them each in their own times.
The roman legions were fantastic, and while i favour them, I have to admit that, caesar gave them gaul, and pompey gave them the east, and the only
opposition was ineffective german foot soldiers and some moderately good parthian armies. Ultimately the roman military (and perhaps its due more to
their 'grand strategy' rather than the legions per say) were ineffective against higly mobilized horsemen. Of course, the later roman legions were
different than the republican and early imperial legions.
The Mongols of course were in fact highly mobile horsemen, so one can make a pretty decent case that the roman military system, taken as a whole,
couldn't deal with it. The huns especially are thought to be distantly
related to the mongols, or rather a people like them (ie hsing-nu are
at least sometimes thought to be distant ancestors of them anyways), so I think that gives a relatively solid answer.
And if the romans could defeat the greeks, and mongol-like armies defeated the romans, then it follows that the greeks would indeed be defeated by the
The US cna be rejected from the list, becuase it does not do anything like any of these empires did in their time. Obviously a tank squad would
defeat any ancient medival army, so again they need to be considered in their time. And in its time the US military has not conquered or held
anything like what they did.
I propose that the British military, infact, belongs at the very top of the list, because they controlled the largest empire, ever, anywhere on the
globe. At one point they held and controlled a Quarter of the Globe, with a volunteer army
and native conscripts. Truly, fantastically,
The US public simply can't sustain militaristic interest long enough to do anything like the others.
On the other hand, replace all the americans with ancient romans, train them and put Caesar at their lead and you have a different, but utterly
[edit on 7-2-2005 by Nygdan]