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The next mistake is putting faith in calculations.
Anyone who tries to fix the “time of the end” by precise calculation is assuming, perhaps unconsciously, that God chose that date by precise calculation in the first place.
We don’t have any real reason for believing that this is the way God works.
If there’s no reason to think that God lays out events to fit a carefully calculated pattern, poring over the timeline of history with a spiritual tape-measure and a year-planner, then there is no point in trying to second-guess his calculations.
originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: davido
I'm not a biblical or religious scholar however, I thought that a tenant of gnosticism was that Jesus was not divine. If that is the case, the Gospel of John is clearly not gnostic as it is replete with references to Jesus' divinity.
Are there any grown-ups here? IF so, that's scary. The only reason I can fathom such behaviour is for stars?
So, there's another view of Revelation 12, that has nothing to do with alignments.
8Now I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. When I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who had shown me these things. 9He said to me, "See you don't do it! I am a fellow bondservant with you and with your brothers, the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
12"Behold, I come quickly. My reward is with me, to repay to each man according to his work. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."
Gnostic crap is coming out of the woodwork lately and almost all of it is BS.
Manichaeism...was a major religious movement that was founded by the Iranian prophet Mani (in Persian: مانی, Syriac: ܡܐܢܝ , Latin: Manichaeus or Manes; c. 216–276 AD) in the Sasanian Empire.
Manichaeism taught an elaborate dualistic cosmology describing the struggle between a good, spiritual world of light, and an evil, material world of darkness. Through an ongoing process that takes place in human history, light is gradually removed from the world of matter and returned to the world of light, whence it came. Its beliefs were based on local Mesopotamian gnostic and religious movements.
Manichaeism was quickly successful and spread far through the Aramaic-Syriac speaking regions. It thrived between the third and seventh centuries, and at its height was one of the most widespread religions in the world.