a reply to: ignorant_ape
Hitler once said he never wanted to be in a room with Franco again, Franco could see right through him, nether of those men were in any way good or
saintly however and Franco had the blood of million's of Spaniard's on his hand's, he did not represent the Bulk of the Spanish population but did
represent the very wealthy and the elite as well as being ultra conservative, most of the Spanish did not want his government and he only won the
Spanish civil war because Hitler sent in his Condor legion's to aid him, it could just as easily have been a war between the Democratic Spanish and
the Communists though had Franco been beaten so likely war in Spain would have continued so despite my hatred of Fascism I have to say that it is
possible that because of his bloody victory less people over all died than would have if he had lost and then Spain had fallen into that other civil
Today many Spaniard's hate him but also many love him, in today's world under the pressure's of mass immigration his type of nationalist government
despite it's protectionism and isolation from the outside world is actually gaining popularity among many that did NOT live under his regime but this
swing to the right is definitely not as pronounced as elsewhere and his regimes many crimes against his own people are still causing division and pain
for many in Spain.
Idealism was the cause of that war, Franco and his Fascists had there idealism, the communists had there Idealism and for the sake of a free and
democratic Spain the Democrat's had there idealism, because of Franco persecuting and forcing his opponents into a corner the two opposition groups
(Whom actually represented the massive majority of the Spanish people) were forced into an alliance and so the Democrats found themselves in a very
uncomfortable shared bed with the communists.
Under Franco's rule Spain went from being one of the richest European nation's and a vibrant economy downward to a level were it was poor and
technologically backward compared to other European nation's.
Franco also chose to keep his nation neutral during the second world war and probably because he WAS strong enough and intelligence enough (if not a
good guy) that he could see right through Hitler and knew that Hitler would simply want to control his nation as did in fact happen to the Italian's
when Mussolini made his alliance with Hitler.
Just to take it aside for a moment he may also have watched how Hitler had played the Abyssinian war against the Italian's by providing Mauser rifles
to the natives meaning that the Italian's lost there campaign to form an Italian empire in Africa and he probably knew that this was done as Hitler
did not want Italy to be too strong and therefore a competitor for the Nazi's own Fascist state.
Spain today is still littered with mass grave's, Franco's regime butchered entire community's because of there communist or democrat support and not
all of those mass graves are recorded or have been found, in Spain though the past is often left to sleep.
BUT if Franco had come into the war on Germany's side the Axis could well have won the second world war, though it has been century's since they last
held that distinction the Spanish were once known as the very finest soldiers in the world, not the finest sailors but on land they had no equal
before the decline of the Spanish empire and it's spending itself in south America, Historically had the america's not been discovered it is quite
possible that the Spanish would have reversed the ancient invasion of Iberia having taken it back from the Moor's only a few decades prior and that
they would have carved out a Spanish empire in North Africa with the full backing of the Church and other allied state's, perversely therefore the
discovery of the America's probably prevented the Islamic empire from being rolled back across lands which it had once conquered in a new age of
empire building and religiously justified wars against the Arab's to seize back the ancient Christian heartland's they had once stolen and of course
led by the Spaniard's, the very same whom instead became the Conquistadors.
Franco was born into a country whose greatness was behind it though, a country that had been muscled off the world stage by the British, French and
the United States so what part that played in his psychology, he was a far more intelligent man than Hitler but his mistake was to isolate Spain.
edit on 11-7-2017 by LABTECH767 because: (no reason given)