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originally posted by: roadgravel
If a person is planning on crashing an airplane then that difficult part of flying that is not crashing can generally be overlooked. The skills then move to crashing in the desired manner. And I do understand hitting the "spot" isn't necessarily easy. And in this case we don't know it the desired spot was actually hit.
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12
And yet, not one work order that shows the date completed for the removal of phones from flight 77.
An issued order is no evidence when the order was completed.
Ever work for a large company? How did Captain Ralph Kolstad know when all phones were deactivated. Was he overseeing the work orders? What if different regions of the fleet were deactivated and pulled at different times. What reason would Kolstad be official notified for the completion of phone removal?
Just because an issue to deactivate was given doesn't prove the carrier suspended services and technology at the same time.
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12
It's only in the f'n works that I cited by Scientists for 9/11 Truth. Many other sources that give an account of the flight path evidence give an account of the wall too. Dig through this thread for what has been posted again and again and again........
I really enjoyed providing the quote and cited source that a majority of the individuals that attest to a northern approach also attest to a large jet impact TWICE because you conveniently ignored it the first time. What other items have you conveniently ignored.......
You might want to actually read through this thread than just posting crap.......
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12
And yet, not one work order that shows the date completed for the removal of phones from flight 77.
An issued order is no evidence when the order was completed.
Ever work for a large company? How did Captain Ralph Kolstad know when all phones were deactivated. Was he overseeing the work orders? What if different regions of the fleet were deactivated and pulled at different times. What reason would Kolstad be official notified for the completion of phone removal?
Just because an issue to deactivate was given doesn't prove the carrier suspended services and technology at the same time.
The evidence i provided does show they believed the phones where deactivated before the attack. By itself maybe you have a point they did not get around to deactivating flight 77 on board phones, but lets not forget Ted Olson could easily just stop the rumors in a second, but he hasn't. All he had to do is look for the Telephone records, wife rang him game over. Instead he just ignores the conspiracy about him. For me that could mean he's guilty and is lying.
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12
It's only in the f'n works that I cited by Scientists for 9/11 Truth. Many other sources that give an account of the flight path evidence give an account of the wall too. Dig through this thread for what has been posted again and again and again........
I really enjoyed providing the quote and cited source that a majority of the individuals that attest to a northern approach also attest to a large jet impact TWICE because you conveniently ignored it the first time. What other items have you conveniently ignored.......
You might want to actually read through this thread than just posting crap.......
Are you ever going to answer any questions? You asked me to look at the impact zone.
Can you point me to the spotS where the engines collided with the wall and made two holes, please.
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12
It's only in the f'n works that I cited by Scientists for 9/11 Truth. Many other sources that give an account of the flight path evidence give an account of the wall too. Dig through this thread for what has been posted again and again and again........
I really enjoyed providing the quote and cited source that a majority of the individuals that attest to a northern approach also attest to a large jet impact TWICE because you conveniently ignored it the first time. What other items have you conveniently ignored.......
You might want to actually read through this thread than just posting crap.......
Are you ever going to answer any questions? You asked me to look at the impact zone.
Can you point me to the spotS where the engines collided with the wall and made two holes, please.
I never said there were two holes. Flight 77 went in tilled left. The left engine clipped a low concrete wall. And I quoted in this thread from a source that referred to the concrete wall. Probably in a reply to you.
originally posted by: Jacobu12
Can you point me to the spotS where the engines collided with the wall and made two holes, please.
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12
And yet, not one work order that shows the date completed for the removal of phones from flight 77.
An issued order is no evidence when the order was completed.
Ever work for a large company? How did Captain Ralph Kolstad know when all phones were deactivated. Was he overseeing the work orders? What if different regions of the fleet were deactivated and pulled at different times. What reason would Kolstad be official notified for the completion of phone removal?
Just because an issue to deactivate was given doesn't prove the carrier suspended services and technology at the same time.
The evidence i provided does show they believed the phones where deactivated before the attack. By itself maybe you have a point they did not get around to deactivating flight 77 on board phones, but lets not forget Ted Olson could easily just stop the rumors in a second, but he hasn't. All he had to do is look for the Telephone records, wife rang him game over. Instead he just ignores the conspiracy about him. For me that could mean he's guilty and is lying.
Why does he have to justify himself if he believes he is innocent? So the FBI didn't include his statement. They have testimony of one other individual that called from flight 77 to three separate individuals to report the hijacking.
And the FBI has eyewitnesses, the flight 77 wreckage, recovered flight 77 personnel effects, contact evidence, radar data, flight recorder data, over a 100 eyewitnesses, human remains and DNA evidence, accounts from flight controls, an a in air pilot.
And, did the FBI really say Ted was lying? Or they didn't confirm Ted's, Ted's secretary, and the operators accounts because they already had a large body of evidence? They gain what from Ted, box cutters were used?
originally posted by: waypastvne
originally posted by: Jacobu12
Can you point me to the spotS where the engines collided with the wall and made two holes, please.
The starboard engine went through a large generator and left avery large hole in it. This happened about 80' before it reached the pentagon wall. It is very doubtful that the engine would still be attached to the wing by the time the plane hit the wall.
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: Jacobu12
No, we found answers long ago. We just grow tired of people who act as if everything they find about 9/11 is something new and then insist that their ideas are reality....when those ideas were disproven long ago.
They have not disproven anything that's why the 9/11 truth movement is bigger every year. You are guys just debunkers and it so transparent.
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12
It's only in the f'n works that I cited by Scientists for 9/11 Truth. Many other sources that give an account of the flight path evidence give an account of the wall too. Dig through this thread for what has been posted again and again and again........
I really enjoyed providing the quote and cited source that a majority of the individuals that attest to a northern approach also attest to a large jet impact TWICE because you conveniently ignored it the first time. What other items have you conveniently ignored.......
You might want to actually read through this thread than just posting crap.......
Are you ever going to answer any questions? You asked me to look at the impact zone.
Can you point me to the spotS where the engines collided with the wall and made two holes, please.
I never said there were two holes. Flight 77 went in tilled left. The left engine clipped a low concrete wall. And I quoted in this thread from a source that referred to the concrete wall. Probably in a reply to you.
If a plane hit there should be two noticeable holes, don't you think? Supposedly this plane broke apart inside but somehow managed to still make a exit hole? And exit hole with no plane wreckage.
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12
And yet, not one work order that shows the date completed for the removal of phones from flight 77.
An issued order is no evidence when the order was completed.
Ever work for a large company? How did Captain Ralph Kolstad know when all phones were deactivated. Was he overseeing the work orders? What if different regions of the fleet were deactivated and pulled at different times. What reason would Kolstad be official notified for the completion of phone removal?
Just because an issue to deactivate was given doesn't prove the carrier suspended services and technology at the same time.
The evidence i provided does show they believed the phones where deactivated before the attack. By itself maybe you have a point they did not get around to deactivating flight 77 on board phones, but lets not forget Ted Olson could easily just stop the rumors in a second, but he hasn't. All he had to do is look for the Telephone records, wife rang him game over. Instead he just ignores the conspiracy about him. For me that could mean he's guilty and is lying.
Why does he have to justify himself if he believes he is innocent? So the FBI didn't include his statement. They have testimony of one other individual that called from flight 77 to three separate individuals to report the hijacking.
And the FBI has eyewitnesses, the flight 77 wreckage, recovered flight 77 personnel effects, contact evidence, radar data, flight recorder data, over a 100 eyewitnesses, human remains and DNA evidence, accounts from flight controls, an a in air pilot.
And, did the FBI really say Ted was lying? Or they didn't confirm Ted's, Ted's secretary, and the operators accounts because they already had a large body of evidence? They gain what from Ted, box cutters were used?
I looked this up and said online no bodies from flight 77 were identified? They tracked a blip on radar, the transponder was turned off they tracked an unknown target flying towards Washington. Eyewitnesses saw different things that you still choose to ignore.
Renee May the only other caller evidence i agree is not easy to dismiss. But how do we confirm she made the call to her parents? All i can find is a write up online about it.
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12
It's only in the f'n works that I cited by Scientists for 9/11 Truth. Many other sources that give an account of the flight path evidence give an account of the wall too. Dig through this thread for what has been posted again and again and again........
I really enjoyed providing the quote and cited source that a majority of the individuals that attest to a northern approach also attest to a large jet impact TWICE because you conveniently ignored it the first time. What other items have you conveniently ignored.......
You might want to actually read through this thread than just posting crap.......
Are you ever going to answer any questions? You asked me to look at the impact zone.
Can you point me to the spotS where the engines collided with the wall and made two holes, please.
I never said there were two holes. Flight 77 went in tilled left. The left engine clipped a low concrete wall. And I quoted in this thread from a source that referred to the concrete wall. Probably in a reply to you.
If a plane hit there should be two noticeable holes, don't you think? Supposedly this plane broke apart inside but somehow managed to still make a exit hole? And exit hole with no plane wreckage.
You are very intellectually dishonest. A person in this thread I believe posted the last exit hole that was made by the landing gear and circled the wreckage.
Is this a false statement?
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: Jacobu12
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12
And yet, not one work order that shows the date completed for the removal of phones from flight 77.
An issued order is no evidence when the order was completed.
Ever work for a large company? How did Captain Ralph Kolstad know when all phones were deactivated. Was he overseeing the work orders? What if different regions of the fleet were deactivated and pulled at different times. What reason would Kolstad be official notified for the completion of phone removal?
Just because an issue to deactivate was given doesn't prove the carrier suspended services and technology at the same time.
The evidence i provided does show they believed the phones where deactivated before the attack. By itself maybe you have a point they did not get around to deactivating flight 77 on board phones, but lets not forget Ted Olson could easily just stop the rumors in a second, but he hasn't. All he had to do is look for the Telephone records, wife rang him game over. Instead he just ignores the conspiracy about him. For me that could mean he's guilty and is lying.
Why does he have to justify himself if he believes he is innocent? So the FBI didn't include his statement. They have testimony of one other individual that called from flight 77 to three separate individuals to report the hijacking.
And the FBI has eyewitnesses, the flight 77 wreckage, recovered flight 77 personnel effects, contact evidence, radar data, flight recorder data, over a 100 eyewitnesses, human remains and DNA evidence, accounts from flight controls, an a in air pilot.
And, did the FBI really say Ted was lying? Or they didn't confirm Ted's, Ted's secretary, and the operators accounts because they already had a large body of evidence? They gain what from Ted, box cutters were used?
I looked this up and said online no bodies from flight 77 were identified? They tracked a blip on radar, the transponder was turned off they tracked an unknown target flying towards Washington. Eyewitnesses saw different things that you still choose to ignore.
Renee May the only other caller evidence i agree is not easy to dismiss. But how do we confirm she made the call to her parents? All i can find is a write up online about it.
Cite the source no bodies were identified. If
I am going out on a limb. But radar doesn't need a transponder. So? our radar only detects enemy airfract when they have their transponders turn on. Transponders are a digital broadcast to identify the aircraft. For a lack of a better term, flight 77 was still tracked by conventional radar. And radar used to look for unidentified aircraft.