What Level Of Skill Was Required To Fly A Plane Into The Pentagon ?

a reply to: neutronflux


1002th time...

You have not proved it, the government has not proved it, the media has not proved it in 16 years because the story itself is false.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux


1002th time...

You have not proved it, the government has not proved it, the media has not proved it in 16 years because the story itself is false.

Another false argument by you.

I asked you to refut the works by Scientists for 9/11 Truth that shows a large commercial get hit the pentagon. Not the government. Not the government controlled media.

Scientists for 9/11 Truth list how people like you, with no discernment for truth, killed the credibility of the truth movement.

Here is the proof a large jet hit the pentagon. Refute these articles, and prove what has more credible evidence on what caused the damage at the pentagon.

“Care to refute any of these articles proving a large jet hit the pentagon?

The Pentagon Attack: Problems with Theories Alternative to Large Plane Impact
First Published January, 2011. Version 3, April 2016.
www.scientistsfor911truth.org...

Flight AA77 on 9/11: New FDR Analysis Supports the Official Flight Path Leading to Impact with the Pentagon
Frank Legge, (B.Sc.(Hons.), Ph.D.) and Warren Stutt, ( B.Sc.(Hons.) Comp. Sci.) January 2011
www.journalof911studies.com...

Bringing Closure to the 9/11 Pentagon Debate
911truth.org... “

The argument from personal incredulity, "My argument against it is that I don't believe it (a/k/a, "you haven't proved it to me")."

That's as far as he's gotten in 16 years. Probably should let him be; he's not interested in answers.

a reply to: blackaspirin

It’s fun to watch the individual’s argument crumble to their claiming of quotes that cannot even be cited to facilitate honest debate. All the talk of science, and the individual is now pigeonholed into only “I heard this” as evidence of conspiracy.

The individual talks about lies while enabling the lies of the truth movement. Reap what you sow.

a reply to: neutronflux

No significant remaining plane debris within the Pentagon because the intensity of the inferno after the crash wholly incinerated the aircraft and its component parts... Fire was so hot, everything resembling an airliner, completely gone.

Yet that same raging, all-consuming inferno spared enough body parts and DNA of 184 individual human beings made of a carbon based material significantly less rugged than titanium, called skin and bone, somehow survived said firestorm in tact enough for positive identification.

and.... please explain the bizarre ground-level symmetrical exit hole on the far exterior wall of the Pentagon's inner ring, some 310 feet away from the impact site.

originally posted by: kyleplatinum
a reply to: neutronflux

No significant remaining plane debris within the Pentagon because the intensity of the inferno after the crash wholly incinerated the aircraft and its component parts... Fire was so hot, everything resembling an airliner, completely gone.

Yet that same raging, all-consuming inferno spared enough body parts and DNA of 184 individual human beings made of a carbon based material significantly less rugged than titanium, called skin and bone, somehow survived said firestorm in tact enough for positive identification.

and.... please explain the bizarre ground-level symmetrical exit hole on the far exterior wall of the Pentagon's inner ring, some 310 feet away from the impact site.

Cite where the fire was so hot it incinerated all airplane parts. False argument by you the airplane parts were incinerated.

Regarding DNA....

You do realize human teeth ate incredibly tough, survive most fires, and can be used to provide DNA, and can be used against dental records to provide identification.

So you are using false narratives and lack of understanding on human remain identification to spin a false argument.

nutron....you have a nuclear battery pack i guess...you go and go


but the normals don't buy the story in general....even if a pilot had skill level 9

the first report with video....ABC news.......not enough debris to...........you fill in what he said

originally posted by: kyleplatinum
a reply to: neutronflux

No significant remaining plane debris within the Pentagon because the intensity of the inferno after the crash wholly incinerated the aircraft and its component parts... Fire was so hot, everything resembling an airliner, completely gone.

Wow, that's news to me. Fire burned the whole thing up, eh? Completely gone!

Where did you read that? I've never read that the entire plane was incinerated, it would have really thrown me for a loop when I was looking at pictures of the wreckage.

a reply to: kyleplatinum

Somehow missed burning this piece of aircraft

911review.com...

and this piece

tse2.mm.bing.net...

and these

wtfrly.com...

a reply to: firerescue

That's impossible, I just read that the whole thing was incinerated.

You read it on the internet so it must be true.

Wow, 112 pages,

Wonder if anyone even read all of them?

How much time would that take, and would you even remember what happened on page 30 when you're on page 100?

Ever ask yourself?

What's the purpose of a forum, that allows threads to get to page 100?

Answer: - SEO content rankings... ( nothing else )

9/11 was an inside job, and ATS helped ( confuse the official story and the truth ) - thanks

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: blackaspirin

It’s fun to watch the individual’s argument crumble to their claiming of quotes that cannot even be cited to facilitate honest debate. All the talk of science, and the individual is now pigeonholed into only “I heard this” as evidence of conspiracy.

The individual talks about lies while enabling the lies of the truth movement. Reap what you sow.

The United States government, behind the scenes security services who run their own mandates for national security, and who control elements of the media have been proven liars for many decades of lying, so it matters not one bit what the official story is, that is being pushed about anything and everything. Every single think tank or university study that has been done for the government, has been written to have the outcome that the government desires, and that is the end of it. They are proven liars. The only thing that can really be known for sure, is that the government sponsored narrative cannot be trusted. (It's even much worse than just that) Period.

What you are saying only reinforces that conclusion ad infinitum.

originally posted by: Tranceopticalinclined
Wow, 112 pages,

Wonder if anyone even read all of them?

How much time would that take, and would you even remember what happened on page 30 when you're on page 100?

Ever ask yourself?

What's the purpose of a forum, that allows threads to get to page 100?

Answer: - SEO content rankings... ( nothing else )

9/11 was an inside job, and ATS helped ( confuse the official story and the truth ) - thanks

Becasuse different people post the same lies of the truth movement. Then the process of outlining the lies and falsehoods of the truth movement starts again.

If people would research all aspects of the pentagon crash out of earnest, this thread and debunking would not be needed. But certain individuals only use debunked truth movement sites to form their religious like faith in 9/11 conspiracy.

Think how much closer to the truth we could be if people would stop pushing false theories like a bomb or missile at the pentagon. Theories that have absolutely no proof or evidence.

a reply to: neutronflux


It's not an argument dude, it is merely a statement that neither you nor the federal government have proved any element of the official fairy tale. No airliners in certain locations, wrong airliners in others, absurd claims regarding 2001 cell phone technology, impossible theories advanced by NIST and others.

Neither you nor they have proved anything except good effort at a cover-up. Yes, the commission was set up to fail. THAT was proved.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux


It's not an argument dude, it is merely a statement that neither you nor the federal government have proved any element of the official fairy tale. No airliners in certain locations, wrong airliners in others, absurd claims regarding 2001 cell phone technology, impossible theories advanced by NIST and others.

Neither you nor they have proved anything except good effort at a cover-up. Yes, the commission was set up to fail. THAT was proved.

Again, false and pitiful argument by you. Theses articles that you cannot refute are not from the government. They are from Scientists for 9/11 Truth that see how individuals like you killed the credibility of the truth which they are part of.

All evidence indicates a large commercial jet caused the damage at the pentagon. As indicated by radar data and scores of civilian witnesses.

You have given zero credible evidence on what caused the damage at the pentagon.

People are here to see if you can provide evidence on a cause for the damage at the pentagon to supersede large jet impact.

All you have is pitiful and shameless rants that have shown you have no discernment for truth, and you side with the liars of the truth movement.

originally posted by: Salander


wrong airliners in others,

You can prove this ?


Show us your evidence.

a reply to: neutronflux

I don't have to 'refute' such nonsense told by such professional and mercenary prevaricators
. All the facts and evidence contradict your claims. Your story is based on impossible phone calls, impossible aerodynamics, impossible 'natural' collapses and much more. The debate, if there ever really was one, has been over for years.

There is a reason the commission was set up to fail, and anybody paying attention understands that. The true purpose of the commission was to protect the guilty parties and to give the talking heads on the mainstream media something to talk about. Endless repetition of a lie may certainly influence the way people think, but it does not make a false story become true.

a reply to: waypastvne


You show me the evidence that 93 crashed in PA, that 77 crashed at the pentagon, that 11 struck the north tower or that 175 struck the south tower, and then we can discuss things.

Remember that government press releases DO NOT constitute proof of anything at all.

a reply to: Salander

Especially in a world where you can look directly at plane wreckage and simultaneously say it wasn't there.