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originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: dingdongdoodah
I love how 9 out of ten are ring shaped too. its like ive found something fascinating to obsess over . I have done a fair bit into nuclear research but not in this direction per say not till today ah well another day learning is another day not wasted , its normally nuclear power . reactors and such. I like looking into the odd dab with quantum mechanics and fluctuations atm and my brothers are both physicists but its always odd topics can honestly say some of this creeped in but never about how many of these exist.
Some are linear, too.
It is just that it's easier to build up momentum by successive circuits of a ring rather than the one-shot of a linear.
originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: dingdongdoodah
Hehe you'd be surprised.
Not sure about any ME but matter accelerators of some kind exist all over, some that are really hard to get info on... There's one (apparently) in the countryside near me.
If you really want to dig then I'd suggest looking up the civilian nuclear sector in the UK, it'll lead to company names, links with defence contractors and you might find tidbits about colliders/accelerators in the UK.
The UK is a nuclear power, with all the trimmings. Google says we have 7 nuclear plants with a total of 15 reactors, with more in the pipeline. So yeah, we'll have a lot of other nuclear related assets.
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: dingdongdoodah
Cern is the largest CIVILIAN particle accelerator, there may be and probably indeed are most likely to be much larger military one's underground used for atomic research etc.
The fear was that somehow Cern would managed to reach the speed of light and this collision would create a micro singularity (I tiny black hole), this is however extremely unlikely unless that glitch in which they thought they had exceeded the speed of light was not a bad calibrated part and was not a glitch in which case they probably did.
But long before Cern people have been noticing thing's not right with reality.
I remember the viscosity of water being greater and it's property's slightly different, anti drip spout's on kettles and tetra pack's that actually worked.
I remember the sky being REALLY blue not just grey that is sort of blue but not when you look at it but actual sky blue - oh and the sun was kind of golden white not hot cold white.
I remember entire passages in the bible being different, the book of revelation itself has changed as has the book of genesis, god was far nicer but still him and still stern and distant not the cold angry uncompromising nasty and cruel version that I find in it now and being extremely religious this was a shock to me, the changes I noticed were at the start of the 1990's, between 1989 and 1993 as my reality seemed to shift.
An artificial black hole however short lived has the potential to merge reality's, not to diverge them but to merge them and this is actually extremely dangerous and accelerates the entropy of the universe itself, doing this deliberately while it is happening all the time naturally is therefore universal vandalism and even suicide.
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: ErosA433
Just remember this,
Now I am going to reinterpret it for you, Railgun or Magnetic accelerated projectile fired at object which manages to avoid it - but had it been lost a little lower in altitude it would have vaporized it.
The first attempt at a portable one though took up the hull of a US navy destroyer but this one seen firing in the old shuttle footage is most likely from one of those infamous DUMB installation's and is most likely a Star Wars Defense Initiative period installation or technology so likely very large, the aiming is most likely done only in the last few hundred feet of the barrel by adjusting the magnet's that accelerate and project the slug but these thing's are most definitely huge, how many of them there are though is a question? but given the number of supposed DUMB sites' even if only one percent of them had these that is still a considerable arsenal, they can of course also be retooled and up scaled to deliver solid state packages into orbit as magnetic acceleration launch facility's but they would likely have to be even larger.
From a point of military strategy it is sound investment.
So how much of a leap to make a comparatively more simply giant tokomat powered partical accelerator, (DUMB) deep enough to avoid MOST cosmic particle radiation, the most complex part is the detector.
* those rail gun installations can also be used against static ground targets half way around the world simply by using gravitation sling shot and velocity regulation, they can in effect dump high density slug's that would look like a meteor strike on targets, there is no launch trail in the form of fuel only the super heated air as they pass through it as seen on the shuttle images so they are not just a launch or weapon facility but very flexible installation's..
Also your view of object's at the speed of light and past it is simply theoretical and is currently being rewritten, remember just after the big bang the universe actually expanded at a rate faster than the speed of light for an infinitesimal instant, this in essence mean's the law's you are quoting from are NOT fixed law's but can be variable and that is a whole other branch of physics.
Faster than the speed of Light an object would not have infinite energy it would rather have greater than the sum of the time space continuum but not actually infinite that is a misunderstanding and only if it was in linear motion relative, in fact that also is only based on speculation which itself is based on paper and mathematical theory's, they are beautiful theorem but that is all they are and no one has proven that this is actually the case.
There is most likely some form of dissipation that occurs based in quantum theory rather than Einstein's linear theory and several quantum theory's currently do indeed throw the spanner in the work's, the old Sabot into the loom for some of those established theorem as I am sure you already know.