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Muslim Solicitor Speaks Out & Tells Muslims Things Must Change

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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: Woodcarver

We aren't talking of plain old criminals or killers we are talking terrorists from ONE specific group, a very close knit group, where the children quite often still live in the parents homes with their spouses and share everything. If one became radicalised you can bet everyone in that family knew. The difficulty with Muslims is their honour and their loyalty to their religion and family and the fear of being ostracised by others in that community

Incidentally, again I'll state if I knew my son was a serial killer or rapist I would immediately turn the little shi*t into the police no worries, clearly I have no honour
i agree totally. But you could also replace "muslim" with any other religion or worldview. The problem is bad people not just bad muslims. Another problem is that they may not have known. Then you are punishing innocent people. Never forget that you are also an innocent person, and you do not want to be punished for other's crimes. Right?
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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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The same Law punishes the families of these terrorists will and shall be used against those who whole heartly support the motion .

No wonder they regard you as a " incompetent , lost at sea , savage , ward of court ".

Muslim do not and can not pose an existential threat to Western nations Soverignty ; establishment does that all by itself .

BAR association is probably behind the " Rant " which is nothing but a Legitlation branch creating a legal precedent.

Don't be a schumuck and say no to innocent people being persecuted ; if you say yes to this than you are saying yes to it for your family and self too .



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: Woodcarver

We aren't talking of plain old criminals or killers we are talking terrorists from ONE specific group, a very close knit group, where the children quite often still live in the parents homes with their spouses and share everything. If one became radicalised you can bet everyone in that family knew. The difficulty with Muslims is their honour and their loyalty to their religion and family and the fear of being ostracised by others in that community

Incidentally, again I'll state if I knew my son was a serial killer or rapist I would immediately turn the little shi*t into the police no worries, clearly I have no honour
i agree totally. But you could also replace "muslim" with any other religion or worldview. The problem is bad people not just bad muslims. Another problem is that they may not have known. Then you are punishing innocent people. Never forget that you are also an innocent person, and you do not want to be punished for other's crimes. Right?


Yeah, but he's talking about the Muslim community and the issue we face right now is one of radical islamic terrorism.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport



Until we love our English hosts as we proclaim to love each other we will always fail. Either we change how we live here and abandon our insular ways or else we can expect to be increasingly unwelcome.




As for the #ing depraved scum who bomb children or prey on schoolgirls like those Rochdale taxi drivers.. I believe that every single member of their family should be immediately deported without trial or question.


Applause!!! The truth hurts! Until Muslims around the world rat out and loudly condemn these followers who have these radical beliefs, innocent and peaceful Muslims will be the subject of hate due to their associated Islamic beliefs.

I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was forced to delete his profile and speech due to threats from sinister followers in the Islamic community. We're dealing with some sick people who would think nothing of murdering him and probably his entire family due to his attack on the Muslim population. Instead, Muslim's should have responded with overwhelming support through their Facebooks and on YouTube.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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Hey all, this is a good friend of mine that posted this, he was a Soliciter/Lawyer with his own practice and has since left that to pursue joinery which he does an excellent job at and he loves it much more then being a Soliciter. I will find out why it has been taken down and his facebook page deactivated and let you all know. But yes he was spot on and well pissed off.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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There were in fact a suprisingly large number of Muslims agreeing tons of Sikhs and Christians too which shows that many may feel and think the same way but are too scared to speak or act.

We have become hamstrung my years of liberal thinking and brainwashing. Whilst the original Race Relations Bill that Enoch Powell spoke so vehemently about was good in theory and quite probably needed, as usual humans went too far in the opposite direction.

We have a habit of going from the ridiculous to the sublime in one easy step and being unable to backtrack



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: Woodcarver

"One way to start introducing them to other ideas could be to force them to spread out into the surrounding countries, thereby forcing them to assimilate little by little, generation after generation. Eventually homogenizing all cultures into one easily manipulated worldview over a few hundred years"

This has been happening since 650ad The Muslim Moors NEVER integrated then and haven't since they preferred slaughter or conversion. What makes you believe that a few generations will change that? The Muslims have been at war for always. There hasn't been a period of peace or stability in the Middle East ever!

Many of the ISIS fighters ARE 3rd & 4th generation Pakistanis born and bred in the UK (and elsewhere) the problem lies with upbringing, attempting to bring them up in two clashing cultures



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: Sakrateri

That would be great thanks!
Be even better if he'd perhaps like to join us here...be good to hear from the horses mouth as it were and have another perspective



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:56 AM
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At some point, a breaking point is going to come. And when that time comes it's not going to be good for Islam and the decent Muslims. They need to understand that they have to get their house in order before we do it for them.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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In this case the Muslim community is NOT to blame.


The POS who committed the attack in manchester was reported to the police repeatedly by his Muslim neighbours and even his mosque! They had been raising concerns for month
The local Muslims to their credit did there’s job, just the UK police decided to ignore him.....

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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: Konduit

It won't only affect the Muslims though, it will affect anyone with brown skin. Most folks have no clue the differences between Sikhs Hindus Buddhists & Muslims



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Excellent thread and excellent original post by Abdul Sattar Khan

I as a white male Mancunian would stand next to this man and his family, forget skin color (where have we heard that before), good people are just that, evil people are a threat to all others, does anybody think that the attacker of my home city cared if he killed another muslim, with such an indiscriminate act in a city which hosts many nationalities he could not have been 100% sure, he was just at that time evil.

Not only is it my home city, I also attended the same school, this may have been many years earlier (many), but I dont believe he was born that way, it has been reported he did the usual teen things, smoke weed, watch football, propbably looked at porn, then at some point he was seduced by an evil, which I think is partly the fault of big websites such as FB, YT, Twitter, they offer an unrestricted platform for other evil people to prey on these young vulnerable minds. Go onto any YT video involving a different race than your own (whatever race you are, its irrelevant) check the comments then for racism and bigotry, some have been on these websites for years, some kids have grown up seeing more racism than I saw in my lifetime, how the hell is that possible?

Anyway I feel I am veering into a rant, so again thanks to PhyllidaDavenport for the thread and Abdul Sattar Khan for his brave words.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: Sakrateri
Hey all, this is a good friend of mine that posted this, he was a Soliciter/Lawyer with his own practice and has since left that to pursue joinery which he does an excellent job at and he loves it much more then being a Soliciter. I will find out why it has been taken down and his facebook page deactivated and let you all know. But yes he was spot on and well pissed off.

Please pass on my support! I will gladly stand shoulder to shoulder to him pride!



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

He was banned from his Mosque for saying an Imam was talking "utter bollocks" and for once looking at an Imam with hatred apparently. I've searched but can only find evidence of these two incidents

In the Manchester Evening News they state that the father was so concerned about his sons radical beliefs that father took his passport. Brother Hashim said under interrogation that yes he knew his brother's intentions. Father is still proclaiming sons' innocence. The family lived in an area which had a large population of ex Libyan Freedom Fighters. Its possible that the Police and others thought Abedi would lead them to other bigger fish. I don't know.

MI5 has defended its position declaring that they are dealing with over 500 active cases and 3000 reports and simply don't have the manpower needed. A Whitehall spokesman said that Security Forces had prevented 5 attacks over the last 2 months.

We don't have the details and I doubt we will get them, and to my mind nor should we



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
In this case the Muslim community is NOT to blame.


The POS who committed the attack in manchester was reported to the police repeatedly by his Muslim neighbours and even his mosque! They had been raising concerns for month
The local Muslims to their credit did there’s job, just the UK police decided to ignore him.....



Good post but ignored entirely , so far .


Glad to see not everyone is acting like sheep do.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Thats a #ing cop out.

The POS was flying a ISIS flag on his house!

UK Police and MI5 have blood on there hands and are far more resposnibile than than the local muslim community who actually DID something for once.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

I agree but with so little knowledge of MI5 and counter terrorist procedures I can't comment in all fairness

It was exactly the same over the child trafficking incident in Rochdale and Keighley. Cries of not enough manpower. Now 400 ex Isis fighters have been let back into the country. I have to wonder if these horrible incidents are not so much created by the security services, but perhaps allowed, in order to get more funding & manpower? Tis a thought
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It should be noted that Mr Khan wasn't calling out the Muslim community for this incident alone, but for others and their general attitude....in his view
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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

At last someone from the Muslim community saying it as it is.

Should be made compulsory reading for everyone.






posted on May, 25 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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The thing is we have tried softly softly and got nowhere. A perfect example being the Judge last week that absolutely tore into the Muslim lady that has lived here 41 years and can't speak a word of English. When assimilation into the host population is that poor then alternatives have to be seriously considered.

This lawyer was absolutely correct. I know many very lovely Muslims who completely agree with him as they are sick and tired of being associated with scum.

Whatever approach we adopt in future, it has to be much more proactive than what we currently do.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 12:35 PM
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I have been slightly amused by this thread .... in that someone stood up and

spoke up for what they believe in.

Full marks to them, but he has only voiced what most in this thread or

even elsewhere really think.

However had anyone else voiced the same rhetoric they would have been

castigated as being *racist*

How can the *truth* be considered racist purely by who speaks it




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