Oregon may allow drivers to choose nonbinary, rather than male or female, for licenses

a reply to: CulturalResilience

anyone, they don't have to look directly. If one can pee over a fence then i believe that's a tell.

Can I apply as a tree?
I leave often and have wood.
Every once in a while, I feel a little twiggy, but that happens because I haven't set roots yet.
My bark IS meaner than my bite, but once I see the light, I am sweet as maple sugar.

a reply to: Xeven

Reminds me of this:

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: CulturalResilience

Maybe it is me, but does the bianary (not sir or mam) look like kevin spacey?

This seems appropriate....

Soon they'll be letting this guy identify as a lizard...

a reply to: Bone75

Anything as long as he feels validated. Like it matters what I think.

originally posted by: scubagravy

originally posted by: seasonal

originally posted by: scubagravy
a reply to: seasonal

Just wonderin, are you guys alright over there in the Land of the free .....

becoming comedy central.

What?

You know what .....

The typical american lets start a fad, be the first, push ridiculous ideas and make them reality, thats what,

It's becoming a joke, this whole gender crap is a farce.

"boys have a penis, girls have a vagina" That's all that's needed to know.

BTW, this is not a personal attack on you, i am pointing out the BS that your population swim in day in day out.You can see it....cant you ?

Just to prove your point?

Trumps locker room talk, TOTAL outrage!
Calling Trump a "Penis Holder" perfectly acceptable and applauded by those so offended????

originally posted by: Xeven
Sex is not a mental decision or choice.

Correct.

a reply to: seeker1963

Very good point.

originally posted by: scubagravy
a reply to: seasonal

Just wonderin, are you guys alright over there in the Land of the free .....

becoming comedy central.

Why is it that, when people are given more choices in how to be, the "Land of the Free" is mocked.

I think non-binary is kinda silly, too. But I know I don't understand it so I stay out of it and assume they know what they are doing. People think the same thing about me so I learned that lesson early on. True freedom, y'all.

a reply to: Abysha

I have no problem with the nonbinary. Say it, practice it. Dress it, do it up.

I wonder if we should make or base laws off of "silly" things.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Abysha

I have no problem with the nonbinary. Say it, practice it. Dress it, do it up.

I wonder if we should make or base laws off of "silly" things.

Is it a step towards greater personal freedom or not?

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: scubagravy

originally posted by: seasonal

originally posted by: scubagravy
a reply to: seasonal

Just wonderin, are you guys alright over there in the Land of the free .....

becoming comedy central.

What?

You know what .....

The typical american lets start a fad, be the first, push ridiculous ideas and make them reality, thats what,

It's becoming a joke, this whole gender crap is a farce.

"boys have a penis, girls have a vagina" That's all that's needed to know.

It's more complicated than that since you can tack one on or cut one off and punch a hole these days. I would suggest a better definition is you have or do not have an "X" chromosome in every cell in your body. If you do, you're a male and if you don't, you are a female. Anything else is a mental fantasy and delusion, hormone shots notwithstanding. I absolutely agree with you. The whole thing is a farce.

You are right, any other base for our laws in looking for trouble.

a reply to: Abysha

No having your drivers license have a M-F or nonbinary does not lead to more or less freedom.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Abysha

No having your drivers license have a M-F or non-binary does not lead to more or less freedom.

It leads to more if you are non-binary.

That's my point. I don't get non-binary. But I don't have to. Why would I criticize more options in ways to be?

It's more freedom, period.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Abysha

No having your drivers license have a M-F or non-binary does not lead to more or less freedom.

That's my point. I don't get non-binary. But I don't have to. Why would I criticize more options in ways to be?

It's more freedom, period.

For whom? There's no such thing as "non binary." It's a delusion. In order to have "more freedom" these folks are trying to force their delusions on the rest of us. These guys are mental, really, and in order for them to "feel good about themselves" they require "validation" from the rest of us and will force that validation in any way they can. And we just roll over and say, "OK, if you believe you are a Unicorn, then we'll call you a Unicorn officially!" To validate mental illness as "normal" does not strike me as a healthy way to deal with such illnesses. I don't think they should be locked away or put on drugs or anything, but I also do not think we should be forced to acknowledge their sickness as normal. We're making the entire farce worse by doing so.

a reply to: Abysha

How does letters on a drivers license lead to more freedom? Now does it take away freedom?

I wonder what the unintended consequences are going to be, they always pop up.

So when a nonbianary breaks the law do we put them in a nonbianary prison

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Abysha

No having your drivers license have a M-F or non-binary does not lead to more or less freedom.

That's my point. I don't get non-binary. But I don't have to. Why would I criticize more options in ways to be?

It's more freedom, period.

For whom? There's no such thing as "non binary." It's a delusion. In order to have "more freedom" these folks are trying to force their delusions on the rest of us. These guys are mental, really, and in order for them to "feel good about themselves" they require "validation" from the rest of us and will force that validation in any way they can. And we just roll over and say, "OK, if you believe you are a Unicorn, then we'll call you a Unicorn officially!" To validate mental illness as "normal" does not strike me as a healthy way to deal with such illnesses. I don't think they should be locked away or put on drugs or anything, but I also do not think we should be forced to acknowledge their sickness as normal. We're making the entire farce worse by doing so.

It is more freedom for some and less freedom for nobody.

Why is this such a big deal?

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Abysha

How does letters on a drivers license lead to more freedom? Now does it take away freedom?

I wonder what the unintended consequences are going to be, they always pop up.

You don't see how your previously-unrecognized way of being, being suddenly an option on a legal document, might be a win for freedom?

Is it a loss for freedom? If not, why do people care?