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originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
originally posted by: Profusion
"Never trust someone who has found the truth, only trust those still searching for it."
Agreed; hence the... "Don't mistake the finger for the moon."
People still sitting around looking at the Buddha 2500ish years later; same with Christ 2000ish years later; Muhammad some 1500ish years later...
Sitting listening; sitting talking; sitting paying to listen and talk.
At some point? The teaching has got to be walked, their teaching was a map... like here ya go get a handle on it and get going live it, fail at it, get up try again keep going build the wisdom as direct experience. Waiting for anyone to walk up and go boop got your nose you are done... will never happen like sleeping through class won't wake you up graduated from college one day. Effort must be made, the teacher can't graduate for you either. Since we all have faculties to point and make noise and receive that noise? Everyone is also a teacher, the most irritating teaches one patience each thing seen bad turn around the wisdom coming from it? Good. Easier to not take the lesson and just make oneself also bad... when everyone starts teaching each other patience? It runs out.
But yes ignore those that cannot be taught.
originally posted by: WhiteHat
" those who talk don't know, those who know don't talk".
I talk because I don't know yet, but how on earth I can hope to ever know something if I don't believe it can be known?
originally posted by: SpeakerofTruth
a reply to: CovertAgenda
Que es veritas?
J. L. Austin, the ordinary-language philosopher, in a symposium on truth, comments:
'What is truth?' said jesting Pilate, and would not stay for an answer. Pilate was in advance of his time. For 'truth' itself is an abstract noun, a camel, that is, of a logical construction, which cannot get past the eye even of a grammarian. We approach it cap and categories in hand : we ask ourselves whether Truth is a substance (the Truth, the Body of Knowledge), or a quality (something like the colour red, inhering in truths), or a relation ('correspondence'). But philosophers should take something more nearly their own size to strain at. What needs discussing rather is the use, or certain uses, of the word 'true.' In vino, possibly, 'veritas,' but in a sober symposium 'verum.'