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I hate capitalism

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posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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I hate capitalism.

I realize the statement and thread topic itself would receive a huge amount of down votes, if ATS had such a feature.

It's not popular to say.

It's not really something I've seen discussed at length - Because all anyone "knows" is that Capitalism is amazing and the best and nothing could be as good.

But I'm not in the crowd chanting these same words.... I truly do hate capitalism.

From cancer, to "humanitarian" efforts - Everything is about money.

Red Cross doesn't give a damn whether a person is helped.

Walmart could care less if their own workers are starving.

Hell, a lot of people are shipping jobs out of the country so they don't have to pay a mediocre minimum wage.

Gah.

Rant forum because this isn't well thought out, just rambling.

-Deadlyhope




posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:37 PM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

Do you mean corporate capitalism?

I think the real problem here is corporate capitalism. I'm fine with capitalism as long as it's about mom and pops stores.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:39 PM
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I have a really old car that needs to go. I will sell it for scrap and get at least some money for it. I am glad for capitalism. When that teenager from down the street comes looking for yards to mow for $20 this summer, we may pay him to do it. I am glad for capitalism. Every time I hit the local farmers market, I am glad for capitalism.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

Oh I love small business - but corporations mess that all up, and put them out of business.

Force legislation that regulates the smaller guy out of business etc...

And "pure capitalism" is as much a fantasy as "pure socialism" or "Utopia"

It just won't happen.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

So you propose Communism? Last time I check, Communism caused millions of people to die.

There's no easy solutions.

Human nature will always get in the way.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

Here's the rub - capitalism has always existed as long as there have been people who needed to exchange goods and services. The label hasn't existed that long, but that's essentially all it is. It's when I have too much of something and you need some, so we work out a mutually beneficial trade where you get what you need and I get something I need in exchange.

Oh no! Capitalism happened.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

ASk the 3rd world labor pools how they like capitalism.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:51 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

Maybe ask Venezuelans.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

No, trade happened.

capitalism - an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Profit, being the key word.

I wish everyone could just make it by... And if someone didn't have enough, they'd be helped.

Yeah, yeah - Everyone is going to call me a dreamer and say it's impossible.

But things like worthless money and 3000% pharma markups have not existed forever.

Nor do they ever need to exist in the first place.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

Not true, the market is demanding the 3000% phama markup.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: deadlyhope

Do you mean corporate capitalism?

I think the real problem here is corporate capitalism. I'm fine with capitalism as long as it's about mom and pops stores.

Along those lines yes. "Crony Capitalism" is the problem. Not capitalism in general, then again not like the US has seen real capitalism.

Ron Paul explaining this from 2011:
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edit on 18-3-2017 by dreamingawake because: vid v link didn't work



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

How?

The supply?

It's happened to drugs that are already approved, in the market, etc...

The Demand?

Well, I guess... People aren't really willing to pay this, but some insurance companies still cover all those costs... So I guess there's that.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

"true capitalism"

Is about as much a fantasy as pure socialism, or utopia - in my opinion.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 10:15 PM
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originally posted by: deadlyhope
a reply to: starwarsisreal

Oh I love small business - but corporations mess that all up, and put them out of business.

Force legislation that regulates the smaller guy out of business etc...

And "pure capitalism" is as much a fantasy as "pure socialism" or "Utopia"

It just won't happen.


Then the problem is that you don't understand the word Capitalism.. or are just ranting about the Liberal version of it.. (a transaction between two people that isn't taxed by their government.)

"Pure" capitalism is the thing that took us from colonizing a few hundred years ago to now... a holy crap explosion of ideas, products and ways to do things.

For instance, in America you can walk into a supermarket and not think about buying things from the other 180ish sovereign nations on the planet. Capitalism did that... I've visited countries where people get their food on the black market and the only official place to purchase products offered gas (sometimes), cigarettes and toilet paper.

Oh! and matches. But back to topic.

What happened is crony capitalism... where people that had a lot of money started buying politicians to vote for them and things went downhill from there.

Now, to be honest this is the fault of the voters. In their defense, we have had about 100 years of Progressive ideas and policies that took over the media, the institutions of learning and the economy to make a swath of voters that will just vote to be taken care of in return for not thinking.

However as Americans we are given, each generation, the chance to take the torch and keep Liberty alive. Entropy is on the Progressive's side, because as long as you have people that yearn to be taken care of you will have politicians that will say whatever it takes to get their votes.

On the other side you have people that believe they were given the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. To do that realistically Capitalism has to be given the freedom to work. There really is no other way, despite what your friendly neighborhood socialist tells you.

So I rambled on in your rant, but in closing there is a huge difference between capitalism and a free market and what you are ranting about, in my opinion.


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posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

I wasn't being serious.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 10:25 PM
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Are you one of us comrade?
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posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

Go into a mom and pop store and buy anything. It will more than likely be made in a 3d world country where the workers are in real bad shape, but the manufacturing company is experiencing record profits.

The whole system is in need of a basic over haul. There has been too many years with out any restraint on capitalism, this has let monopolies form. This is not good for the consumer.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

who are you addressing?



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

Probably the commie.



posted on Mar, 18 2017 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

Come up with something better.




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