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Report: 15 Million People Will Lose Health Coverage Under GOP Repeal Bill

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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 02:46 PM
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Millions set to lose coverage. That means more expensive ER visits, more debt, more deaths and the cycle continues. The economy will again be flooded with millions of uninsured:


A report from the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is expected next week, and experts at the Brookings Institute—who have performed their own analysis of the bill—predicted it will bear bad news for Republicans.

"CBO’s analysis will likely estimate that at least 15 million people will lose coverage under the American Health Care Act (AHCA) by the end of the ten-year scoring window," wrote Brookings analysts Loren Adler and Matthew Fiedler. "Estimates could be higher, but it’s is unlikely they will be significantly lower."

The Brookings report is based on past CBO analyses of policies included in the new GOP bill, all of which are predicted to cause people to lose their insurance coverage.

talkingpointsmemo.com...

I really have to question what exactly are tax credits going to do for a working class family if heatlhcare insurers continue (as they have since well before Obamacare) to spike up their premiums? They've been given more freedom and control over their prices again and how has this worked over the few decades? For sometime now, well before the ACA, we've relied on the open market of healthcare corporations to dictate coverage and prices. The result? One of the highest costs in healthcare in the industrialised world. Now we have a good 15 or so million uninsured flooding the economy again. Some of you may not feel the need to care but in the end this will impact all of us. Millions may very well find themselves in debt again due to healthcare costs and this will impact the economy. Sure, you can go to the ER if you're really sick, but the end result is a bill that's likely to leave you financially strained for years to come. Tax credits won't do anything to solve this.


"Generally, the ACA has higher tax credit amounts...for lower-income people," the Kaiser report notes. "Especially for those who are older and live in higher-cost areas -- and lower credits for those with higher incomes."
The big winners are those earning more than 400% above the poverty line, who do not qualify for a subsidy under the ACA, although some other groups might come out ahead as well.

time.com...

And the cycle continues.




posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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That will add substantially to the already 30 million uninsured !!



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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Yet maybe 15 million will be able to afford their
own plan now if they fix the horrible mess that was
created by all of the exchanges and rate hikes.


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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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Another report says about 25 million more jobs on the way so they can get it at work and not be taxed for it. Of course that would require them to WORK.




posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Where do we start? How about that their ""spreadsheets or whatever" quote is actually sourced from... their own website, by some guy. Literally, just some guy who once taught economics... somewhere? What, community college econ 101? Former? Where does he work now, this talkingpointsmemo.com? If they can't be bothered to actually reference someone, why should I care what they have to say? Secondly, 15 mil could lose coverage, and possibly millions more? I thought only 20mil were even signed up... even thought hat number is intentionally misleading as well. How many aren't subsidized? Well, that's a number that actually matters, so you won't find it in a clearly biased article on a website ironically called Talking Points. The number is 86% nationwide. In Texas, out of 1.2 mil people, 1 mil were receiving an average of $239/mo. Let's do math! That's 2.8bil+/yr just in Texas alone. Will people lose their coverage? Of course, that's between federal and state funds, so you likely won't find a similar article that portrays that accurately either. They'll cut the number in half, multiply it by 50 (if they don't pick a smaller state to based their failed analysis on), and talk about how it's less than the defense budget. You know... except not really.

Wanna really get a laugh? Read the comments section of this article. It's full of people who blindly accept their analysis as gospel.
"Backed by "spreadsheets or whatever"?
Literally "death by Powerpoint".
Death by ballot box is what they all deserve."
That person thinks people should die based on a worthless quote from someone with such little professional value the website doesn't even bother telling you who it is.

www.nytimes.com...
Want some more recent? How about 91% of Sacramento enrollees?
www.abc10.com...
to make it even worse, when the prices go up, they just introduce more tax breaks? Your premium just jumped 22%, no worries, ACA will offer you tax credits saving you 20% from what you were paying before! What could go wrong?



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Let's add this. How much do we actually spend on these subsidies that we're forcing people to take? About a trillion dollars. Seriously. That's actually almost twice the defense budget... even with the recent increase. and that's just federal support. When you decide to grow up and look at facts, there's this

www.globalcreditportal.com... ceRevId=3&fee_ind=N&exp_date=20270307-22:26:18



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 03:46 PM
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Can we just all agree for once???






Neither the democrats, nor the republicans know how to effing do this.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 03:46 PM
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Those morons better not mess up my coverage. I just checked this morning...pre existing condition is still in effect.

You would think the idiots in congress would be trying to make health care affordable, not take it away from us.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Yea and really.....will the other 100/200 million americans who saw their health care costs triple ever see relief? And the folks that almost work the whole second job to pay for insurance and subsidize the other guy.......who complaining for them?



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Yea and really.....will the other 100/200 million americans who saw their health care costs triple ever see relief? And the folks that almost work the whole second job to pay for insurance and subsidize the other guy.......who complaining for them?



Mine went up a little too or maybe more than a little but my income went up as well since I started my own business, and it also went up under Bush(as did almost everyones...look it up...no lie) ...it wasn't just the affordable health care act. I'm actually more worried about a family member with severe mental health issues that is in danger of loosing some coverage (they're already trimming mental health from the budget) and help and my wife who will have a hard time finding a job if they take away the pre existing conditions clause. And although I feel for you and I am in the same boat, I'm much more worried about the life and death issues in my family than your bills going up a little.
edit on 10-3-2017 by amazing because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: bknapple32

The thing is so out of hand that they need to do hearings on the relationship between patient, provider and insurance firm. Providers screwing the insurance and the patient......insurers screwing providers and patients ect



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: amazing


Within one year of AHCA ours went up to three times the cost, much higher deductible ect



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 04:04 PM
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Hmmm, I don't recall anyone caring about all the people who lost their coverage when the damn thing was enacted.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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this plan will implode faster than the ACA

letting the young healthy folks take their premiums out of the system and then letting the remaining people choose from expensive to cheap plans means the people that need the plan the most won't be able to use it because those premiums will skyrocket

its so damn simple. single payer makes you the 100,000,000 pound gorilla in the market and you dictate terms.

THAT'S how you get premiums down.

don't tell me its socialism, its a monopoly that would make vanderbilt blush

no other modern industrial nation in earth is dumb enough to have a for profit health care system except us

yay

edit on 10-3-2017 by syrinx high priest because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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The fact of the matter is this plan changes a system in which the working class pay for the poor thereby also making the working class poor to a system in which the working class pay for the working class and the poor are relegated to Medicaid.

I think that is more than fair. If the poor democrats want healthcare, according to the February 17 Jobs Report, there are plenty of jobs for them to work.

It is not our jobs to subsidize the failures of the poor democrats.
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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Well, it's never been off the table... so. In fact, from the get go, they've said that will stay. Also, when has it ever been about making anything affordable? Nothing has actually become more affordable, as I clearly laid out. the government just spends more money they don't have. The only REAL solution is job creation... and not the kind that replaces one full time job with two part time ones with no benefits.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 04:25 PM
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Of course, there is a lot wrong with this version of the plan, so I really don't want it either. But inevitably, whatever ends up happening, there is going to be shakeup and some are going to have to replace the plans they have in some fashion.

It happened when the instituted the mess though, so it would be naive and hypocritical to demand any major changes to not do the same.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 04:26 PM
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Millions lost their insurance when Obamacare was enacted.




posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: syrinx high priest
this plan will implode faster than the ACA

letting the young healthy folks take their premiums out of the system and then letting the remaining people choose from expensive to cheap plans means the people that need the plan the most won't be able to use it because those premiums will skyrocket

its so damn simple. single payer makes you the 100,000,000 pound gorilla in the market and you dictate terms.

THAT'S how you get premiums down.

don't tell me its socialism, its a monopoly that would make vanderbilt blush

no other modern industrial nation in earth is dumb enough to have a for profit health care system except us

yay


No. I have good healthcare, I worked very hard to get it. I have the ability to visit one of the top hospitals in the world and its facilities for care anytime I wish. I pay a lot for that privilege. Single payer would cause delays and bring down my quality of care. If you want the same care I have go outside into the world and work as hard and smart as I did do. i will not sacrifice me or mines healthcare for your benefit. Never ever.
edit on 10-3-2017 by AppreIron because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
Millions lost their insurance when Obamacare was enacted.



How many lost their insurance? And where's your source?




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