Radiation at Fukushima nuclear plant at unimaginable levels

So this is the first MSM TV report I've seen on Fukiuhima in a very long time...and the news is predictably not very good.

Basically, it says 300 tons of radio active water is still being dumped into the ocean each day and the radiation levels have now reached the highest levels since 2011.

According to the Fox News report, TEPCO reported 73 sieverts per hour during the crisis. It is now 530 sieverts per hour. That is just mind blowing!

Apparently, it just takes exposure to 4 sieverts to kill a person.

Time to see what Arnie is up to...

For those of you who don't know Arnie Gundersen, you can read about him here.



Here is his website: Fairewinds.

Does that mean that Fukushima is even worst disaster then Chernobyl? How much sieverts were there after Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings?

My thought from the first few weeks was that it is a world problem that needs experts from the world, not just TEPCO.

Probably too late now. Six years of TEPCO should show they aren't capable.

a reply to: loam

Um, how the hell is there that much water / flow?

When it starts killing off fish that China depends on then it's nots just Japan's problem. Not good.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

An underground river that flows below the plant from the highlands inland.

This is the reason they will never be able to keep the radiation out of the Pacific.

It's what the ice wall was supposed to have prevented, but was a failure.

Notice they even question whether those amounts have been true from the beginning.

Also, I should mention the estimates are it will take $300 billion and 40 years to fix.

Crazy, crazy report.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Looks like China Syndrome could be happening, there are pics of underneath the reactor and it appears the core has melted through..so not good. The radiation 530 sieverts will kill you real quick.

originally posted by: baburak
Does that mean that Fukushima is even worst disaster then Chernobyl? How much sieverts were there after Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings?

The cores of the bombs that destroyed Japanese cities were small, @ ten kilograms by weight. The fuel in the reactors and the spent fuel pools were in the tens, hundreds of tons.

In bombs the event is over in a second, air bursted and turned to fallout that, except for PU in the Nagasaki bomb was mostly consumed in the detonation.

The hundreds of tons of reactor fuel involved in the meltdowns isn't dissipated, its still in there, down in the basement of the reactor buildings somewhere, being cooled with water spray thats leaking out, daily.

There is no reaching them, let alone removing them, the rads are so intense even robot cameras electronics fry in the gamma radiation.

The fresh releases of higher and higher radiation levels is expected, as the contamination spreads outward, eating away at expedient methods of containment.

This is the worst case scenario, times three.

Sad, scary, and not a peep in the media.

Why?

How the heck are they gonna repair/stop this?????
Surely even in the best radiation suit your still gonna die. 530 sieverts per hour?

Who in their right mind would want to do an 8 hour shift there?
Nightmare, a disaster that isnt going to cease anytime soon

The size of the plutonium core used in the bomb that fell on Nagasaki.



A single bundle of fuel rods in a typical reactor core.



A typical reactor core under construction. The figure of a worker in the foreground for scale.



Source for photos...

nonuclear

originally posted by: baburak
Does that mean that Fukushima is even worst disaster then Chernobyl? How much sieverts were there after Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings?

Yes it's worse.

AND hold the eF up..

We are talking sieverts not milisieverts?!

umm... Yea no wonder even robots can't go over there. Holy wow.

so that's a lethal does per MINUTE..

Won't kill you right away but stay there for a minute and you'll be dead in weeks.

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
How the heck are they gonna repair/stop this?????
Surely even in the best radiation suit your still gonna die. 530 sieverts per hour?

Who in their right mind would want to do an 8 hour shift there?
Nightmare, a disaster that isnt going to cease anytime soon

no no no.. You're a little off..

One sievert, the unit measurement for a dose of radiation, will cause illness if absorbed all at once, and 8 sieverts will result in death, even with treatment.

PBS

8 Sieverts is Lethal..

Now 530/60 = something close to 8.83 Sieverts At Fukushima per Minute

So it's lethal in one Minute.

This chart is in miliSieverts.. So divide by 1,000 to convert to Sieverts
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So this is much worse than we knew. What does it mean for the west coast of North America? This isn't just a problem for Asia. This is serious folks!

Meanwhile, people are protesting because they got their feelings hurt over the election. Goes to show how misguided we can be in this country. Maybe if we blame Fukushima on Trump, it will get completely undivided attention.

a reply to: loam

Yep! Arnie is the go-to man for an honest appraisal of the situation. He always has been from the start of that terrible tragedy.

The Japanese situation is out of control and always has been and only now are we being told of higher levels of radiation in sea water reaching the west US coast. Eventually, it is expected by some of us that the mysterious deaths of high-order sea creatures in the Pacific will be traced to the Japanese explosion.

Worse, yet, Arnie has repeatedly informed us of the scary situation with more than one US nuke plants.

Be aware that the shills for the nuclear industry will be along shortly to attempt by lies and disinformation to tone down the extent of the damage ever caused by any nuclear accident.

Radiation is a slow poison, deadly, silent and mostly unrecognized by the public for its long-lasting effects on all life. Your biggest fears should not be about nuclear missiles raining down from an adversary but your local plant going haywire.

Interesting video on the Demystifying / Fukushima menu link at Fairewinds link.

It wasn't if but when does it happen to a Mark I containment.

Here are the US units in play:

The following 23 U.S. plants have GE boiling-water reactors (GE models 2, 3 or 4) with the same Mark I containment design used at Fukushima, according to the NRC online database:

Browns Ferry 1, Athens, Ala., operating license since 1973, reactor type GE 4
Browns Ferry 2, Athens, Ala., 1974, GE 4
Browns Ferry 3, Athens, Ala., 1976, GE 4
Brunswick 1, Southport, N.C, 1976, GE 4.
Brunswick 2, Southport, N.C., 1974, GE 4.
Cooper, Brownville, Neb., 1974, GE 4.
Dresden 2, Morris, Ill., 1970, GE 3.
Dresden 3, Morris, Ill., 1971, GE 3.
Duane Arnold, Palo, Iowa, 1974, GE 4.
Fermi 2, Monroe, Mich., 1985, GE 4.
FitzPatrick, Scriba, N.Y., 1974, GE 4.
Hatch 1, Baxley, Ga., 1974, GE 4.
Hatch 2, Baxley, Ga., 1978, GE 4.
Hope Creek, Hancock's Bridge, N.J. 1986, GE 4.
Monticello, Monticello, Minn., 1970, GE 3.
Nine Mile Point 1, Scriba, N.Y., 1969, GE 2.
Oyster Creek, Forked River, N.J., 1969, GE 2.
Peach Bottom 2, Delta, Pa., 1973, GE 4.
Peach Bottom 3, Delta, Pa., 1974, GE 4.
Pilgrim, Plymouth, Mass., 1972, GE 3.
Quad Cities 1, Cordova, Ill., 1972, GE 3.
Quad Cities 2, Moline, Ill., 1972, GE 3.
Vermont Yankee, Vernon, Vt., 1972, GE 4.

Does something like this eventually burn itself out?

And in the mean time, Should we be concerned about this seriously effecting the whole world and how long before that happens?

They have been down playing this for so long. I was talking with someone today (an Older Person) and there comment was "Oh we shouldn't worry about that" (I'm thinking "Yea, you don't cuz you'll be dead in two years")

It recently killed a robot in 1 hour.

Bad news for decades to come.