Paleontologists Discover Traces Of 80-Million-Year-Old Collagen In A Dinosaur Bone

originally posted by: edmc^2

In other words, it's like using a giant digger like a excavator machine to dig a very delicate flower.

Yeah The many variables involved make it impossible to get a certain date. It does tell us, though, that if C-14 is present in all dinosaur, coal, and diamond samples, that these specimens are indeed less than 100,000 years old.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: edmc^2

In other words, it's like using a giant digger like a excavator machine to dig a very delicate flower.

Yeah The many variables involved make it impossible to get a certain date. It does tell us, though, that if C-14 is present in all dinosaur, coal, and diamond samples, that these specimens are indeed less than 100,000 years old.

Exactly. That's why the op of this thread is Fake News masquerading as science or Fake Science masquerading as News.

Paleontologists Discover Traces Of 80-Million-Year-Old Collagen In A Dinosaur Bone

No such thing.

The evidence against it is overwhelming if not very obvious.

originally posted by: edmc^2

Exactly. That's why the op of this thread is Fake News masquerading as science or Fake Science masquerading as News.

I was thinking about it today once the science inquisition is over and empirical evidence reigns true again how silly we will look at this period of ignorance where it was common belief to think we were the progeny of mutated randomness.

Our creative potential, opposable thumbs, huge forebrains, uprightedness, etc clearly indicates that our bodies are a vessel for the Creative Spirit - hence being made in the Image of the Creator.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: edmc^2

Exactly. That's why the op of this thread is Fake News masquerading as science or Fake Science masquerading as News.

I was thinking about it today once the science inquisition is over and empirical evidence reigns true again how silly we will look at this period of ignorance where it was common belief to think we were the progeny of mutated randomness.

Our creative potential, opposable thumbs, huge forebrains, uprightedness, etc clearly indicates that our bodies are a vessel for the Creative Spirit - hence being made in the Image of the Creator.

But you know what's funny are these so called "learned" men / women. Because of their blind insistence on an erroneous preconceived idea (evolution) they made their knowledge - on this subject matter - silly if not laughfable.

I mean come on! 80 million year old "collagen on a dinosaur bone"?

Who are they kidding?

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: CB328

Do not fall for insufficient excuses as to how organic soft tissue can now suddenly last for millions of years

Oh please, stop thinking everything in science is a conspiracy, it's ridiculous.

If you want to find lots of conspiracies look at the conservative realms of religion, war, business and political corruption.

Isn't your strawman argument just stupid, "everything in science is a lie" that's not the issue
Stupid is stupid, the issue is organic soft tissue lasting millions of years when grand Nan's body doesn't have any left after a few decades
Please let's play with common sense in this thread, not airy fairy stuff

Your argument is disingenuous and spathetiv

Soft tissue lasting millions and millions of years, it's stupid

You're not running grand Nan's body through the same equipment tests that are looking for trace evidence -- because if you did, you would find it. You do not comprehend science. It is a repeatable, it is testable.... knock it off.

originally posted by: SRPrime

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: CB328

Do not fall for insufficient excuses as to how organic soft tissue can now suddenly last for millions of years

Oh please, stop thinking everything in science is a conspiracy, it's ridiculous.

If you want to find lots of conspiracies look at the conservative realms of religion, war, business and political corruption.

Isn't your strawman argument just stupid, "everything in science is a lie" that's not the issue
Stupid is stupid, the issue is organic soft tissue lasting millions of years when grand Nan's body doesn't have any left after a few decades
Please let's play with common sense in this thread, not airy fairy stuff

Your argument is disingenuous and spathetiv

Soft tissue lasting millions and millions of years, it's stupid

You're not running grand Nan's body through the same equipment tests that are looking for trace evidence -- because if you did, you would find it. You do not comprehend science. It is a repeatable, it is testable.... knock it off.

Knock it OFF?

who are you kidding, you want people to believe that organic soft tissue lasts millions of years
Thats just ludicrous

Use your noggin and think about it
organic soft tissue lasting millions of years....just think about it

How is it repeatable, it is testable and OBSERVABLE, how

originally posted by: edmc^2

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: edmc^2

Exactly. That's why the op of this thread is Fake News masquerading as science or Fake Science masquerading as News.

I was thinking about it today once the science inquisition is over and empirical evidence reigns true again how silly we will look at this period of ignorance where it was common belief to think we were the progeny of mutated randomness.

Our creative potential, opposable thumbs, huge forebrains, uprightedness, etc clearly indicates that our bodies are a vessel for the Creative Spirit - hence being made in the Image of the Creator.

But you know what's funny are these so called "learned" men / women. Because of their blind insistence on an erroneous preconceived idea (evolution) they made their knowledge - on this subject matter - silly if not laughfable.

I mean come on! 80 million year old "collagen on a dinosaur bone"?

Who are they kidding?

Evidently they are not kidding and millions and millions believe it
The sheep complex, put on a white coat and people believe you
Its how they sell toothpaste and evolution

what a crazy world

I mean come on! 80 million year old "collagen on a dinosaur bone"?

a reply to: Raggedyman

organic soft tissue lasting millions of years....just think about it

Proteins are not "soft tissue." And depending on the conformation, they conceivably could last millions of years. Even billions.

originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: Raggedyman

organic soft tissue lasting millions of years....just think about it

Proteins are not "soft tissue." And depending on the conformation, they conceivably could last millions of years. Even billions.

I believe this is where the "soft tissue" was referrenced to:

Molecular preservation in non-avian dinosaurs is controversial. We present multiple lines of evidence that endogenous proteinaceous material is preserved in bone fragments and soft tissues from an 80-million-year-old Campanian hadrosaur, Brachylophosaurus canadensis [Museum of the Rockies (MOR) 2598]. Microstructural and immunological data are consistent with preservation of multiple bone matrix and vessel proteins, and phylogenetic analyses of Brachylophosaurus collagen sequenced by mass spectrometry robustly support the bird-dinosaur clade, consistent with an endogenous source for these collagen peptides. These data complement earlier results from Tyrannosaurus rex (MOR 1125) and confirm that molecular preservation in Cretaceous dinosaurs is not a unique event.

science.sciencemag.org...

btw, in an "80 million year old fossil" how much of the original bio-material is left in tact?