posted on Jan, 11 2017 @ 03:19 PM
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TonyS
Desegregation created poverty because they abandoned their communities and then the Great Society welfare state destroyed their family structure in
the quest to abolish the poverty created by the desegregation.
It seems like we "helped" them right out of everything that made life worth living. Thanks, government.
I don't know about that. Jobs were harder during the 20th century. Agricultural mechanized labor caused many to go elsewhere seeking industrial jobs,
like to northern cities. 90% of the black population lived in the south at the turn of the century. It got harder and harder for various reasons,
largely from segregation/discrimination. Those definitely had an impact because access to quality services and schools is big. And back then
businesses could still discriminate--behind the scenes--on race.
Check out this link. In 1959, black poverty was 55.1%--versus about ~17% for whites. It dropped to a low of about 22% (for blacks) in 2000:
www.washingtonpost.com - These ten charts show the black-white economic gap hasn’t budged in 50 years...
The important thing to note is how far black poverty has fallen since then. So something must be working, right?
More here about the formation of "black ghettos":
www.onbeing.org - A History of Poverty
in America: Chapter 1...
For whatever reason, blacks and whites tend to STILL be segregated, blacks moreso than any other group of people:
www.epi.org - For Public Schools, Segregation Then, Segregation
Segregation and concentrated poverty in the nation’s capital...
www.nytimes.com - Affluent and Black, and Still
Trapped by Segregation...
Although this gap is real, it has been declining for decades, while a host of factors besides schools influence student
performance. The marchers did not need to be told what a half century of subsequent social science research has confirmed—schools cannot fulfill
their potential so long as African Americans are segregated, as King put it, into “a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of
I read recently about how 70% of blacks live in cities or the first ring of suburbs, whereas 80% of whites live in rural or suburban areas. What
seemed to occur many decades ago is whites left the cities (as transportation technology allowed) and took the jobs/services with them. This
disadvantaged the "black ghettos"--which were in the ealry stages of forming--even further.
Durign this election the rural/urban divide caught my awareness. Most city votes go to Hillary and rural go to Trump. That's why there's an ocean of
red on the geographic county voter map and just islands of blue--most land area is rural. Yet not all of this is merely racial, since it seems whites
living in cities are more likely to lean democrat. Maybe it's education? Below:
ashingtonpost.com - There really are two Americas. An urban one and a rural one...
edit on 1/11/2017 by jonnywhite because: (no reason