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KGB Agent Revealed Ancient Chinese Subversion Strategy For Globalists To Conquer The World…

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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

What's that supposed to prove exactly? That's a list of objectives that W. Cleon Skousen attributed to communists in 1958. The fact that 5 years later Rep. Albert Herlong was inspired to read the list before the House in 1963 has little to do with anything let alone the hoaxed list in the OP.




posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

So it was a hoax created to be repeated by wingnuts so that it could later be exposed as a hoax to discredit those very wingnuts? And it's still working 70 years later? Impressive!



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian
What is interesting about your commentary and links is that you are using the US gov and Nyt as sources to dispute. Both sources known to report only gov and CIA propaganda.

Perhaps this document never existed but the government has gone to great lengths to make a large portion of it true for the American people.

So where did these thoughts come from? Did they originate with Saul Alinsky? Or did he refine them from another source?



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: Gaussq

Socialism/Communism has already infiltrated Europe and in the U.S. especially with the Clintons and the Obama administration. They want to blame the Russians for "subverting the elections", but the subversion has already happened. It was through "social democracy" that people like Hitler rose to power. The left-wingers love to point fingers and claim right-wingers are Nazis, yet they can't see Hitler's moustache under their nose when they look in a mirror.

Left-wing governments trying to stop dissent, claiming any dissent that differs from the "progressive views" is "foreign government propaganda". You can't point out the fallacy that is multiculturalism, or you will be branded a "racist". Heck, there are people who have had to pay fines, and faced prison for pointing out the crime wave brought by multiculturalism. It doesn't even matter if you are an immigrant(legal) yourself. You still get branded "a racist". You can't voice your own opinion because "some people will get hurt", which is only an excuse for "progressives" to suppress any opinion different than theirs.

Some want to say "there is no left, nor right". Yes there is. The globalists love the left because it gives them excuses to get more and more power and control. If you visit any of the websites of the globalists, like the Rockefellers, the Rotchschilds, etc, you will see them trying to back/support every "progressive idea" there is, and some people are too brainwashed to see that the globalists are not doing this because they are good people. They are doing it because it gives them more power. The more power given to the government, the more power the globalists have, and the left loves to give all power to the government. For "the good of all of course"...


Plato himself pointed out that "democracy is the disaster of the Republic". Democracy is nothing more than "mob rule".


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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 11:45 PM
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Here is a detailed account of the actual origin of the document. It's a hoax but that's not to say that the principles outlined are not legitimate and in active use by multiple global powers.

www.historycommons.org...
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posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 12:28 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Really? the communist goal is dead when there is a pope that claims "good Christians are communist"?



...
You told me some time ago that the precept, “Love your neighbour as thyself” had to change, given the dark times that we are going through, and become “more than thyself.” So you yearn for a society where equality dominates. This, as you know, is the programme of Marxist socialism and then of communism. Are you therefore thinking of a Marxist type of society?
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Pope Francis responds to Scalfari.


“It it has been said many times and my response has always been that, if anything, it is the communists who think like Christians. Christ spoke of a society where the poor, the weak and the marginalized have the right to decide. Not demagogues, not Barabbas, but the people, the poor, whether they have faith in a transcendent God or not. It is they who must help to achieve equality and freedom".
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This is a "hoax" when every aspect of "progressivism" is nothing more than socialism/communism in disguise?



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 03:01 AM
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originally posted by: Kapusta
And a Hero appears .




apparently .





posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 04:20 AM
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Call it what you want, old hoax or whatever, but it has certainly manifested itself into the modern-day United States of America.
One of the main parts that struck me
The doing away with and ridiculing of a countries tradition, say for instance having a president who isn't a citizen yet was groomed for the presidency?
It always struck me as odd the pristine condition of Obama's bc.
I saw my mother's certificate and it's all torn and tattered, barely legible due to the fact that back then it was used more often for ID and certainly not laminated would at least look somewhat worn and dirty.
Also, the fights to remove the 10 commandments from all buildings and public areas.
I actually have a copy of Sun Tzu art of war, haven't read it in ages. Think it's time to revisit that one right there.
This is one of those threads that I wish wouldn't get forgotten about and had more contribution because it is so surreal.
Sadly it seems if it doesn't make msm headlines or is an active shooter people move on quickly.
Awesome OP



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 07:22 AM
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Its the jews.



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 08:10 AM
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a reply to: Gaussq

You know it is hard even for conspiracy theorists here to accept the premise of it. Many here defend the very things which are exposed as part of the globalist agenda. The plan just seems too large, too all-encompassing to even be possible abs that's part of it, plus the general insanity of it, and the scope, the diabolical evil of it is too hard for many to accept.
The root of it is truly evil. It involves secret sicieties, extra terrestrials and fallen angels in embodiment. Ironically it is Putin who is refusing to be on the Globalists side while the Establishment elites sabotage the new Prez-elect. It's the New Left now and not the Soviets...wrap our heads around that.
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posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 08:38 AM
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Thanks for all your replies, very interesting.

It´s true the 1919 document has been deemed a hoax by the MSM but that lends it a lot of credibility. And since 1946 it has been public at the very least. I use to tell people who claim hoax about the Protocols`of Zion from 1897 that it doesnt matter who wrote them because they are 120 years old and have come true so it means there is an evil plot to conquer the world power. If we put the label of "jews" or "fake jews" or simply "satanists" won the evil people plotting is less interesting. They are present and they try to kill our freedom, our health, our families and our traditions and nobody reacted so far - that is very dangerous isnt it?

Another interesting document is this one from 1963 in the Congress: The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

The most interesting and unimaginable part of all of this global conspiracy is that the US has had the most hardcore communists of all in the super bankers(Rothschild, Rockefeller etc) control the Congress and Senate in their direction while at the same time using CIA, Pentagon to fund communist dictators across the world.

I recommend people to read "Red Symphony" where Rakovsky claims that Komintern(Soviet communists) was controlled from "Capintern" - Wall Street.

While we have been thinking that America is a free and good country its most powerful eltie has silently been pushing the US in a communist direction for at least 100 years without people realizing it. Now the US is much more communist than Russia under Putin which pushes for traditional culture.

The Tibet factor is the final part of the whole global plot and the objective is not onyl worldly power - they want your souls, to own your whole being. That is their final solution and by then the elite wants to be worshipped as living Gods - just like the Lamas in old Tibet were worshipped as Gods by the deceived population. How many can imagine these kind of "people" and plans existing?..

But most people have started to realize that the whole media is a huge lie factory created in order to enslave the people and their minds.
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posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: Gaussq

Sound's eerily accurate but odd that it is claimed this come's from communist's, anarchist's yes but communist's? they are no saint's but this is an attack on the people and not a rising.

Sound's almost like a game of chair's actually, who is wearing the hat and who is the one on the chair.

During the first world war the Old Powers kept it going as long as they could after the Russian revolution because they feared being overthrown themselves and it was handy as a killing field to try to get rid of as many of the working class men as possible since they feared a large unemployed mass of workers after the war would revolt and overthrow them.

So they turned down several attempt's by the Kaisers government to negotiate a fair truce and end the war and instead pushed for German's unconditional surrender knowing that the Kaiser's government would then be forced to fight on as long as they could.

The hidden power's behind this modern coup against the people and our nation's are not Communist's, do not be misguided by Soros, he is a fake Jew not a real one whom betrayed Jew's to the NAZI's and was a NAZI sympathizer during the war, so he was most certainly not a communist, using social unrest is in his interests for some reason, keep the world divided and sow anarchy, like the Rothschild's before him since the time of the nepoleonic war's and even before they used similar tactic's and likewise he has profited from the disunity he has sown, does he have spawn because if he does then he is attempting to create a second Rothschild dynasty, a Soros dynasty who most likely will work in tandem with them to set up there emperor, that is right not a socialist system an imperial system were the people are owned by the bank's which are then owned by them, people as property and slaves.



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 09:15 AM
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I am sorry for not making myself clear enough. What I mean is to not emphasize labels like communist, capitalist, nazi, anarchist, liberal etc so I just called them communists for simplicity and since the communist manifesto is still their essential foundation in worldly matters. Those other labels are perfect for evil people because they hide behind many deceived innocent souls.

Soros, Rothschild, Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, FD Roosevelt, Churchill etc belonged to the same club of people. They deceived the whole world and their countries of residence by instigating wars, civil unrest, bank crisis, unemployment, shutting down industries, shutting down farmers, fake left-right conflicts in politics etc.

In reality they all belong to the same kind of occult elite people worshipping the devil knowingly or unknowingly. They call themselves a cluf of "enlightened" and "emancipated" people but the essence is just to get absolute power and riches for themselves and they believe occultism gives them supernormal powers.... Yeah, it sounds ridiculous but thats why Marx called his breast equal to the Creator in his poems... Thats why Stalin said the real menaing of communism is to snatch souls from God.

Pizzagate is real dynamite because it shows people what "emancipation" means to the elite. Sick minds.

Its a spiritual thing and its not on the positive side... Unbelievable but well documented...



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: Gaussq

The Kate Professir Antony Suttin exposed skill and bones years ago....think Kerry/Bush. vho.org...



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Gaussq

Yep. We've been under attack for a long time and finally, in 2016, the Rebellion began. And several major battles have been won but I won't sit comfortable until Trump is inaugurated and the Brits have actually exited the EU!



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: Gaussq1. Corrupt the young: get them away from religion.


This one is working quite well.

I fully believed as a teenager and young adult that I was here by accident in the universe and that I was in fact a HIGHLY EVOLVED MONKEY.

The concept of a higher power or sexual responsibility was completely outside of my sphere of influence.

And much of the music that was on the radio stations encouraged sexual irresponsibility.

Music and TV should encourage things like romance and courtship, not irresponsibility.



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Being ignorant of political science as so many of the far-right zealots on ATS are does not via alchemy convert hoaxes and lies into truth. This monolithic notion of socialism is on par with the intellectual acheivement of an average 5 year-old. Ignorance about the far-right nature of the Nazi program is not a replacement for reading comprehension and a basic knowledge of history. Persistently repeating this filth is not an excuse for being able to construct a rational argument with rational sources. I'm sure you don't provide those because you are well aware that only far-right zealots make these arguments in the first place. Every mainstream source says quite the opposite. You simpy excuse the preponderance of evidence by saying, in essence, if it doesn't agree with your extremist views it must be the work of commies. I do realize, of course, that you get your requisite quota of back-patting from similar extremists and zealots here on ATS, but thankfully this nonsense is shut down everywhere that adults convene.

This. Is. A. Hoax.



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyElohim
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Being ignorant of political science as so many of the far-right zealots on ATS are does not via alchemy convert hoaxes and lies into truth. This monolithic notion of socialism is on par with the intellectual acheivement of an average 5 year-old. Ignorance about the far-right nature of the Nazi program is not a replacement for reading comprehension and a basic knowledge of history. Persistently repeating this filth is not an excuse for being able to construct a rational argument with rational sources. I'm sure you don't provide those because you are well aware that only far-right zealots make these arguments in the first place. Every mainstream source says quite the opposite. You simpy excuse the preponderance of evidence by saying, in essence, if it doesn't agree with your extremist views it must be the work of commies. I do realize, of course, that you get your requisite quota of back-patting from similar extremists and zealots here on ATS, but thankfully this nonsense is shut down everywhere that adults convene.

This. Is. A. Hoax.


Well put.

This is how the mind of the "alt right"/political fanatic/conspiracy theorist operates. Your post should be used as a disclaimer before anyone enters this site. The conspiracy theory community is so confused. Everyday their story changes and not a single one of their cockamamie half brained theories ever comes to fruition. This should be evidence enough, but this objective observation of the conspiracy theorists persistent failure is entirely blocked out. I truly believe that people who create patterns where there are none have minds that are not capable of functioning at the adult level. This leads to societal rejection and why we have what we have today. These people often lose their jobs as their focus is not on work, but more pointed on a deep sense of insecurity. "Everyone is out to get me". You can't possibly be successful in this state of mind. Another reason why Trump is awful, he takes advantage of these poor folks, but thats a whole other discussion...

The real conspiracy is how much money ATS makes from this particular group of people through their "donations" and advertising. I despise this place and only post to let others know the truth. Interestingly enough, my other theory is proving to be correct at this point. The "ATS is supported by white supremacists" theory. I've found a boatload of white supremacist blog posts that are directly linked to ATS and the majority of content that is posted here. It's actually quite shocking. It's far too similar like how Melania stole lines off Michelle. That bad.

Let's see if my post is censored. They're all for free speech until someone messes with their scam. Mods buy into it too. Perhaps unknowingly. Perhaps not.
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posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 04:41 PM
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originally posted by: Miracula2

originally posted by: Gaussq1. Corrupt the young: get them away from religion.


This one is working quite well.

I fully believed as a teenager and young adult that I was here by accident in the universe and that I was in fact a HIGHLY EVOLVED MONKEY.

The concept of a higher power or sexual responsibility was completely outside of my sphere of influence.

And much of the music that was on the radio stations encouraged sexual irresponsibility.

Music and TV should encourage things like romance and courtship, not irresponsibility.


Perfectly right and to those who call this a "hoax" I ask them if there is free sex, less religion, more divorces, lower morality and more taxes these days? If they mean that our current culture is a hoax I absolutely agree.

If they mean that we dont have modern culture in line with the conspiracies from old times I cant agree with them. Its a fact that we have marxist culture today.

In any case, for 2016 Ragno Nero in his eternal book from 14th century said that the "wolf and lamb will change places in 2016" - I believe its correct and the elite is under pressure now - increasing pressure.

For 2017 even larger things are prophecied - huge things: Eternal Book(14th Century)

That is not all since next year its 2500 years since Buddha passed away. 2017 is prophecied as the beginning of the Messsianic age according to Buddhism - and Judaism and Nostradamus...(!). Finally people will get to know some real truth if some of this comes true. I believe the odds are overwhelming for a great event next year, not only based on prophecies but based on how fast changes are taking place as we speak.


2017 Is The Big Year


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posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 05:26 PM
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for liberals and democrats in ATS's political threads, there is nothing you can say that is the truth, or that is even considered as being truthful...the right-wing has taken over these threads, if a liberal says it, it's a lie, if the media says it, it's a lie, if the government says it, it's a lie. they ONLY believe each other, because to them, that is always the truth. so to me, it has gotten to the point where why even bother. it's like talking to a wall...and the trump Brownshirts have made the rest of us irrelevant in their minds...and to the above member...johnny Elohim....chapter 6 of Mein Kampf explains this very well.



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