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originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: TrueBrit
Your story is a harrowing one, and thanks for sharing it, but none of it is tied to left-wing principles. If anything, what you describe are Christian principles. A right-winger could do the very same. The left and right paradigm represents political principles, not moral ones.
We are not the United State...We are the United State(S) of America...Each State gets its own vote...Where did you get the idea that the larger mob in one State gets to pick the boss for the rest of the States???
originally posted by: ManFromEurope
This is one of those threads which encourage me to never visit ATS/Political Section(even in Rants) again.
There is a controversial debate, and by demanding that one side simply "shut TF up!" this is going straight into a anti-democratical territory.
Don't you remember the last election?
And the one before? And so on?
When every time there was this "WE DIDN'T LOSE! WE CAN'T LOSE!" by the losers of said election happened?
Asking for a recount - undemocratical?
Asking some people to follow their own code of morals about what is best for the country - wrong, too?
Sit down, we all have to accept the vote of about 62.8 million people (for Mr. Trump) over 65.4 million people (for Mrs. Clinton). It is a broken system and seemingly noone in charge wants to change that.
originally posted by: deadlyhope
Seriously. I'm not a right wing person, nor an alt right nor even a Republican - I'm mostly libertarian and lean left on some social issues.
That being said, people that identify as Democrat, liberal and such are really starting to get to me. I've always tried to advocate tolerance and acceptance and embracing others and realizing they are human beings too.. But sometimes people just go to far.
To try to reject the election results, to do all they can to get electoral votes to change sides, to ruin Sanders campaign when he was the only genuinely decent person running, to have sketchy meetings with people in high positions while dealing with legal processes, to ignore huge amounts of data showing rampant corruption spreading through their party...
These are not just common every day errors, these really require a lack of brain power joined with a self righteous mentality.
Now, don't get me wrong. Far right people make me mad just as much, those that think trickle down economics is a principle that is true and works, those that hold their religious belief so high they believe it should be law - I'm not okay with these things.
But, that's not whats currently happening. The left is being shown as insanely corrupt, immoral, above the law, currently attempting to change who becomes president because a hissy fit is more important than our representative democracy - and the citizens themselves shut their eyes and ignore all crimes and all manner of immoral, unethical, unacceptable actions of those that represent their party while actively rejecting the will of the huge amount of Americans who practiced their freedom to vote for the president they wanted to represent them.
Anyways, I could go on but I will stop here. As a reminder I am not pretending that those on the right are any better in some cases, this post is more just addressing the current ongoing situations more than anything.