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# Is zero a number???

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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 08:15 PM
a reply to: roadgravel

Four snakes lined up in a row who bit the color black? # want to play tic-tac-toe?

posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 08:18 PM
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Variables variations entropy

posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 08:20 PM
a reply to: auto3000

Zero is a space from which all exit a portal inbetween subject of matter bullseye

posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 08:22 PM
a reply to: JesusXst

it's infinity look into a pupil or become one if the eye exists the infinite then what does the mind land on? Then the voice issuing has ceased union with the inifinite.

posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 08:27 PM

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: auto3000

In order to gain a better understanding of zero as a number, you would perhaps be better off instead asking the question...

"Why can I not divide by zero and get a defined result?"

The answer would be this:

3 / 0 = x = undefined. Why?

Because: This same expression can be notated thus...

x * 0 = 3...and because any number multiplied by zero equals zero (in this case x), then there can be no defined result when solving for x when multiplied by zero and equaling 3.

Why? because you said so. the next part? does not equal the defined as 3 as you left it undefined; so you redefined it instead of leaving it as zero. so trying to remain as undefined in such a manner of expression left yourself a window to those not understanding your logic... pretty clever but more decietful to those that are ignorant of such thinks.

posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 08:31 PM
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

in arabic hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh looks like a flute but it means laughter. When someone tells a joke the face of laughter flies onto the face of the one that heard it making them the monkey or butt of the joke... this is why babboons smile and dogs dont get the joke.

posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 09:01 PM
Why Division by Zero is undefined

posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 10:05 PM
Zero is a number. End of story.

OP's confusion is that, with a value of zero (which is part of the definition quoted) is the fact that it is also a place holder. This is the same as any other number: again which does not deviate from OP's definition of a number.

So, at "zero" amount of tens it is zero. One ten and... a... five, it is "10" + "5". At "20" it is "2" "10"s and the zero holds the place to notate "how many" are there.

posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 10:42 PM

originally posted by: auto3000
num·ber 1.
an arithmetical value, expressed by a word, symbol, or figure, representing a particular quantity and used in counting and making calculations and for showing order in a series or for identification.... The question is simple, based upon this context meaning, is zero a number?

Of course.

First off it fits that definition very well. It is absolutely a quantity. For example, ask anyone who's ever had to perform an inventory of many items. Often they are out of one or two items and in that case, the notation is Quantity: 0

Second, and most importantly, any higher order mathematics would be *impossible* without it.

Roman numerals are pretty as far as that goes, but thank god for the Arabians - without them we'd have no zero and be stuck in the dark ages or worse to this day.

posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 08:01 PM
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Never ending story? Seen it once already...

posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 08:19 PM
So Zero is 0

And 0 is Zero

Zero is Zero

What about minus 273.15 degrees C?

Surely that's 0.....?

posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 08:28 PM
a reply to: Riffrafter

Finally! Someone that gets it, that gets to the point simply, and doesn't write a short book! Thank You kindly!

posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 10:12 PM

originally posted by: TAECOLE7
How is it a number if it holds no value, a number holds value.

One would not be a number if zero was not a number that distinguished one as something other than zero.

Same with any other number.

posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 10:15 PM
a reply to: auto3000

Yep

posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 10:19 PM

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: auto3000

In order to gain a better understanding of zero as a number, you would perhaps be better off instead asking the question...

"Why can I not divide by zero and get a defined result?"

The answer would be this:

3 / 0 = x = undefined. Why?

Because: This same expression can be notated thus...

x * 0 = 3...and because any number multiplied by zero equals zero (in this case x), then there can be no defined result when solving for x when multiplied by zero and equaling 3.

0/0 = [R] when [R] is all real numbers

Because 0 x [R] = 0

boo yah

posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 10:27 PM

originally posted by: Marlborough Red
So Zero is 0

And 0 is Zero

Zero is Zero

What about minus 273.15 degrees C?

Surely that's 0.....?

What?

Or did I miss the /sarc tag?

posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 01:05 PM
Why? because you said so. the next part? does not equal the defined as 3 as you left it undefined; so you redefined it instead of leaving it as zero. so trying to remain as undefined in such a manner of expression left yourself a window to those not understanding your logic... pretty clever but more decietful to those that are ignorant of such thinks....amusing assumption but no my fellow cognitive friend, because of objective reference, not attempts to determine facts...the pot of water is boiling on the stove because I'm making tea, not because of the heating of molecules, what one determine by fact VS the intention behind what is being observed....but I clearly perceive why you understand the concepts in the manner that you do.

posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 01:41 PM
If one is divided by positive values approaching zero, the result is a larger and larger positive number.

If one is divided by negative values approaching zero, the result is a larger and larger negative number.

That makes it undefined since those results are not equal.

posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 01:50 PM

originally posted by: Marlborough Red
What about minus 273.15 degrees C?

Surely that's 0.....?

Absolutely.

posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 01:54 PM
a reply to: auto3000

yes 0 is a number because how can you make the number ten or 100 without 0 as we all no that 10 and 100 are both numbers with a .0. so in sense 0 is a number ............. hmmmmmm

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