Some members are concerned about "wasted votes" and complaining that third party votes are votes for Clinton. Didn't these same people claim before
that the election was rigged? How can an election be rigged whilst simultaneously, your vote matters? It is an oxymoron.
Is there really such thing as a "wasted" vote? Or is that redundant?
Maybe you should vote for Clinton. After all, she's a successful, educated, intelligent, experienced politician with a commanding air. Then again, she
lost $6 billion at the State
Department while the Inspector General position was left empty.
So maybe you should vote Trump. After all, he's a successful, wealthy, outspoken, experienced businessman with a commanding air. Then again, he
lost a $1 billion through shoddy investments and mistakes.
Well, money isn't important. Except in everything. What of their policies?
Trump is a good man - he sticks to his morals and his convictions. He does not change his stances for political gain!
Except for that time he ran for president in 2000 on a
left-wing platform with Universal Healthcare. Could he be a *gasp*
secret liberal? Or, it could just be that he is a flip-flopper by
Clinton is a woman of morals and convictions. She does not change her stances for political gain! Except that time she
stole Bernie Sanders' platform. Could she be a
plagiarist? Or rather, simply, enjoys change:
And did you catch that?
5:50 Iran is a big problem for Saudi Arabia
12 I will veto UN peace treaty between Israel Palestine
15:30 veto all resolutions against Israel
17:40 known Netanyahu for many years
22:12 move embassy to Jerusalem as capital (how very Illuminati of you)
So ah... vote for... ah... oh, who am I kidding, it doesn't matter. They are the same.
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have been friends for a long time. They are co-conspirators. Disciples of the global wealthy elite, and the political
machinations of the New World Order, such as the CFR. Do not forget that
Bill Clinton called Donald Trump to ask him to run as opposition.
Well now. The Right likes to blame the Left and say, "you should have voted Bernie to stop the witch Hillary!" And the Left likes to blame the Right
and say, "if you didn't want Hillary you shouldn't have elected the most bloviating fool Republican!" It seems not to matter much. As above, the
election is a sham. So just for a bit of lightheartedness, here is the debate we
should have had!
So I say, vote for Clinton. Vote for Trump. Vote your conscience. Vote third party.
Vote whomever you desire, whomever you believe in. But do not expect change by supporting the corrupted system. Only changing the system itself will
result in better representation and removal of corruption. Until that time, America is doomed.
edit on 8-11-2016 by SargonThrall because: (no reason given)
a reply to: Thoren
I have enjoyed all of your posts that I have seen, friend!
I want Donald Trump to be about Hope and Change, I really do, but the evidence does not indicate as such. I learned my lesson from Obama: those vying
for power will say anything to gain your support. In the end they always revert to the status quo. Even if Trump wins, his supporters will be
disappointed. They can't say we didn't warn them.
I'm happy to see some here still do their homework and look at the whole picture instead of falling for the rhetoric both candidates spew. I was
planning on doing a thread like this but you beat me to it. Excellent thread. S&F for you Sir.
I'm afraid this gem of a thread will be lost in the chaos though.
edit on 8-11-2016 by Thoren because: (no reason given)
now I understand why they got rid of the poll tax, it wasn`t because it was discriminatory it`s because with the crappy choices we have been getting
they knew that nobody would actually pay real money to vote for the candidates that they offer up.
if it keeps up like this they may have to start paying people to vote.
1. Screw that. All Americans should vote. A lot of people made many sacrifices during the Women's Suffrage movement and Civil Rights Movement to make
sure all citizens could vote.
2. There will always be some people who make excuses when they lose. "It was rigged", "my opponent cheated", "check him/her for steroids", "I was
inefficient with my energy", etc. But like you mentioned, if they really thought it was rigged, they couldn't also believe a vote for a 3rd party is
the same as a vote for their opponent.
3. No offense but we kinda know the other things you mentioned. You pretty much listed a summary of the last 16 months of ATS. Though I'll give you
props for mentioning Trump's pro-Israeli views, which got glossed over a lot. Then again, Hillary's the same so US foreign policy in regards to the
Israeli-Palestinian situation will probably be the same no matter who's elected.
edit on 8-11-2016 by enlightenedservant because: (no reason given)
a reply to: Thoren
Have you noticed how the most crass, vitriolic posters on this website are now calling for "olive branches" now that they have feel vindicated? What
are the odds that they would have done anything of the sort had they lost? It's just phony posturing.
a reply to: enlightenedservant
No offense taken. But vice versa, versa vice. No offense, but you seem to have misread the end of the thread. Nowhere did I suggest not to vote. In
fact I said vote for whomever you wish.
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