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In a 1971 article in Science Digest, Dr. Estabrooks claimed to have created hypnotic couriers and counterintelligence agents for operational use. “During World War II, I worked this technique with a vulnerable Marine lieutenant I’ll call Jones. I split his personality into Jones A and Jones B. Jones A, once a ‘normal’ working Marine, became entirely different. He talked communist doctrine and meant it. He was welcomed enthusiastically by communist cells, and was deliberately given a dishonorable discharge by the Corps and became a card-carrying party member. Jones B was the deeper personality, knew all the thoughts of Jones A, was a loyal American and was ‘imprinted’ to say nothing during conscious phases. All I had to do was hypnotize the whole man, get in touch with Jones B, the loyal American, and I had a pipeline straight into the Communist camp. It worked beautifully.”
originally posted by: humanityrising
Scopolamine, or "Devil's Breath" as it's called in Columbia, is a chemical found in a variety of plants. When ingested, it causes a person to become completely obedient, all the while looking, acting, and talking normal.
loss of memory of events recently before exposure and sleepiness, similar to the effect of benzodiazepines or alcohol poisoning,
It is “horrible stuff”, says Curran. “When I used to give it to people [in experiments], they hated it – it makes your mouth really dry, it makes your pupils constrict. Certainly high doses would be completely incapacitating.” And does it remove free will? “It would completely zonk you out,” says Curran, “ but I don’t know about removing free will. It incapacitates you because you’d feel so drowsy, you wouldn’t remember what was going on. But you would do after huge doses of alcohol, or lots of other drugs like Valium or other benzodiazepine drugs.”
This begs the question, what if you administered this to someone without their consent and told them to go kill some people and then kill himself?
originally posted by: Unresponsible
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance
Pseudoephedrine is used by millions of people daily in the treatment of hayfever and I don't see them ODing on meth.
originally posted by: svetlana84
How do i adress this topic? Let's say a very close friend of mine ;-) has experience with scopolamine.
The bullet points:
- stay away from it. with micro dosage of Scopolamine the high is interesting, but not pleasant. A little bit more than micro dosage and/or combined with alcohol or other substances and the high gets scary and it s a serious risk for your health.
- the stories about memory loss on Scopolamine are true (as always depending on the dosage).
- mental and physical abilities on Scopolamin are lowered, reaction times are slowed. people are still able to do simple tasks. more complex tasks, as hitting a target with a gun, or physical fights are are out of reach.
- I dont know how it was used in the MK Ultra experiments, i can only imagine it being used to sedate somebody to try to imply hypnosis or other mind influencing techniques. I can very well imagine, that that would work to a certain degree: the conscious mind is lowered, the subconscious is awake and people tend to forget (on the conscious level) what happenend under Scopolamine.
originally posted by: diggindirt
Scopolamine is only one of the ingredients in the drugs that have been developed over the years in efforts to achieve mind control over others. A tweek here and a nudge there---take away the un-wanted side-effects---and walah---it works perfectly on some people. These drugs were being tested in the human trafficking trades as far back as the '90s so I've not doubt that they've been able to refine them.