Tim Kaine 72 Interruptions in VP Debate

a reply to: Christosterone

Pence really just doesn;t know how to debate.

a reply to: Puppylove

You're grossly generalizing. I haven't seen one "leftist" argue that Kaine won ... but Pence certainly failed in his single job of supporting the policies and positions of the ticket ...

The argument of this thread is that the person who interrupts another in a debate shows a lack of decorum that makes them unfit for the Presidency (or Vice Presidency, as the actual case here may be.)

If so, this thread is arguing that Trump is utterly unfit for the high Office he's running for.

a reply to: Christosterone

Ad hominem. Weren't you just getting on someone else's case for going offtopic from your thread?

This discussion is regarding Tim Kaine's buffoonery in last nights debate...

If you would like to discuss something else then start your own thread..

Thanks for contributing but this thread is about the Kaine/Pence debate behavior..

-Chris

Yep. There it is. I don't recall you writing a thread about Krazysh0t.

Thanks for contributing.

a reply to: Christosterone

Right. So now you want to stick to just focusing on Pence/Kaine. After how many months of every Trump conversation being deflected to Hillary this and Hillary that, now you want to start focusing on only a rigid topic of conversation. Got it.

But wait. Didn't you just say that being on the same ticket means the VP is an extension of the President??? Yep, I'm pretty sure you did. So I guess bringing up Trump along with Pence is perfectly acceptable.

But keep squirming and using double standards because it's oh so entertaining to watch.

Pence won the debate.

Unfortunately, Trump still managed to lose, even though he wasn't there.

originally posted by: Greggers
Pence won the debate.

If OP would indulge an actual rational discussion of the facts here ... how do you figure?

Any specific points on which you judge Pence the winner?

a reply to: DBCowboy

They are confident they are motivated they are ahead in every poll this week and they are winning. Everybody knows this.
Kaine was aggressive and had Pence on the defensive the whole night.

a reply to: Greggers

Personally I thought they did equally terrible. So I guess in a sense that means they both won and the American public lost.

a reply to: mOjOm

Hope this helps with your understanding words....

The Vice President, TOGETHER with the President of the United States, is indirectly elected by the people through an Electoral College for a term of four years. The Twelfth Amendment states that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States.”

ex·ten·sion
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noun
1. a part that is added to something to enlarge or prolong it; a continuation.
"the railroad's southern extension"
synonyms: addition, adjunct, annex, wing, supplementary building, ell, add-on, bump-out
"they are planning a new extension"

Cool it!

Stop the BICKERING!

This thread is about how many times Kane interrupted Pence.

It's not about Trump. It's not about Hillary, it's not about any of you.

Stick to the topic.

STOP

attacking each other. This is NOT the Mud Pit forum.

If you can not post without attacking, being rude to other members or acting hateful, then leave this thread and go find one in the Mud Pit where you can act that way.

Else, your posts will be removed, and you WILL be post banned, for an undisclosed amount of time.

Do not reply to this post.

a reply to: lovebeck

Oh yes she does have the support she claims.
You have nothing that you can show that says otherwise.
Don't be ridiculous.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm pretty sure facts are going to be absent from this thread.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Greggers
Pence won the debate.

If OP would indulge an actual rational discussion of the facts here ... how do you figure?

Any specific points on which you judge Pence the winner?

Well, I'm not the OP. But since you asked me, I will respond.

I'm basing this mostly on optics, which unfortunately is how a lot of people will judge the debate. Pence was calm and collected, but Kaine seemed a bit manic. Also, although it's not fair, Kaine is hard to look at. It wouldn't surprise me if this had elements of the Kennedy/Nixon debate, where the people who listened to the radio said Nixon won, while the people who watched it on TV said Kennedy won.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Sure Kaine was a little overly eager last night but what's probably going to stick with people more than that is that it doesn't sound like Pence is much of a Trump supporter himself.

It wasn't just that Pence could defend Trump on much of anything — particularly anything he's said, EVER — but it was like the two of them have completely different platforms.

a reply to: theantediluvian really ? I don't see it that way and I don't like any of them. Maybe if Trump took estrogen then he would be more like Kaine.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Christosterone

You care WAAAY too much about the outcome of this debate. Fun fact: This debate will likely have little to no effect in the polls because no one cares about the VP debate.

Normally that is true, but when only being offered two frustrating candidate options this election, those that are undecided are going to try to find some solace in their choice of vote this November. MCCains choice of Palin was his downfall.

a reply to: Christosterone

What ever you have to tell yourself to explain Trumps epic failure.

originally posted by: lovebeck

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Christosterone

Regardless what the media says, I think the democrats are afraid that they will lose.

They are desperate. They are panicking. They are losing.

She doesn't have the support/votes she claims. If Trump doesn't win? People should revolt.

I think they should revolt if either of them win.

originally posted by: beeeyotch
a reply to: theantediluvian really ? I don't see it that way and I don't like any of them. Maybe if Trump took estrogen then he would be more like Kaine.

Here's a breakdown of what theantediluvian is talking about:
Mike Pence To America: Trump Never Said Those Things He Said

RUSSIA

When Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), Hillary Clinton’s running mate, accused Trump of praising Russian president Vladimir Putin as a “great leader,” Pence denied it and called Putin a “small and bullying leader.” But Trump has repeatedly praised Putin.

When Kaine said that Trump recently claimed Putin was not going into Ukraine, Pence denied it. But Trump did say, “He’s not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand. He’s not going to go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want.” Putin took the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine in 2014.

Pence himself also recently said, “I think it’s inarguable that Vladimir Putin has been a stronger leader in his country than Barack Obama has been in this country.”

NUCLEAR WEAPONS

When Kaine challenged Pence to defend Trump’s comment that more nations should get nuclear weapons, Pence said “he never said that.” But Trump did.

TAXES

When Kaine pointed out that Trump had once promised to release his tax returns, Pence replied, “He said he will do it.” Trump has repeatedly said he can’t release his returns because he is being audited by the IRS. (The IRS has said nothing prevents him from releasing them.) There is absolutely no evidence that Trump will actually release his returns. His son, Donald Trump Jr., has admitted that there’s a more political reason the campaign is not releasing the returns: It would be a distraction and create too many “questions.”

IMMIGRATION

Kaine said Trump wants to have a “deportation force”: “They want to go house to house, school to school, business to business, and kick out 16 million people.” Pence called Kaine’s statement “nonsense.” Last year, Trump himself used the term “deportation force” in an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe”: “You’re going to have a deportation force, and you’re going to do it humanely. And you’re going to bring the country – and frankly, the people, because you have some excellent wonderful people, some fantastic people that have been here for a long period of time.”

MEXICANS

Pence tried to defend Trump’s comments about Mexicans after Kaine pointed out that the GOP presidential candidate has called immigrants from the country “rapists.”

“He also said, ‘many of them are good people,’” Pence replied.

Trump’s actual quote last year was: “When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.”

ABORTION

When Kaine said that Trump had said women should be punished for abortion, Pence said, “Donald Trump and I would never support legislation that punished women who made the heartbreaking choice to end a pregnancy.” But Trump did say that women who have abortions should be punished.

a reply to: mobiusmale

How many ways can it be said??? Short thread.