Football is awesome

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: DrakeINFERNO

Yep NFL players have less stamina or ability to take knocks than the average Canadian national rugby player in my assessment of things.

Different game, way more intensity involved in the short plays of NFL or CFL.

Take knocks ?

Half of the team is walking around for a majority of the game just like soccer, and the knocks are usually nowhere near as hard as they will be in the padded sport.

I think you're wasting your time. It's like arguing against a militant atheist. Clearly, football stung this one when he was a child and he won't even consider that there might be some athleticism needed to play it.

Let him dwell in his narrow little world.

a reply to: ketsuko

Lol no, never played the game, only rugby, you know the game that involves 40 minute half's of pretty much continuous free flowing high impact play with no body armour or tall fat bastards on the pitch who can only run 5 yards without needing a smoke and chat with officials.

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: In4ormant

But at least it's played with the feet hence ... Football.
We have a game like American football over here called Rugby , but they don't need to wear padding.

That is because they don't get run into full speed, most of rugby is tackling from the side etc.....

You have obviously never watched a Rugby match.

originally posted by: grainofsand
So, which rugby 'stars' failed in the NFL?
I'm genuinely interested now you've made the claim.

I think he is referring to Jarryd Hayne. The guy was good enough to make the 53-man roster which is pretty impressive considering he never played football prior to that.

real men do shinty

a reply to: In4ormant
Sissy boys wear giant pads so they don't get hurtsy. American football is rugby for pussies with no generic just specialised skills. It's rather laughable.
Real football is so much better. You steal a name that doesn't apply to your sport.

Yes, we know your sports is sponsored by gatorade, doesn't mean you have to stop play every 30 seconds to remind us. Just let em play.

a reply to: ketsuko

Football players (soccer) do dive but they don't have the luxury of video reviews ( will do soon) and rely on referees with little understanding of football to make decisions. It's a form of making the ref aware that your chance was impeded. Lack of honesty is common in all sports, American football included.

originally posted by: In4ormant

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: In4ormant

There is no sports forum so Ill just post here.
FOOTBALL IS AWESOME

Wrong on both counts.
Sports forum

American football is not awesome , real football is.

I must have missed it! Mods move!

American football is so much better that that foot patsy with sissy boys falling at every shoulder brush!

No it's not, real football is better, by far, hence the reason the rest of the world wants to play it, even without the need for aggresive marketing tactics.

American football is THE most boring sport I've ever seen in my life, bar none!

a reply to: jamespond

Actually the rest of the world plays football because it doesn't take as much equipment. All you need is a ball so that almost everyone can play. American football is expensive.

People tend to like best sports they have played because then they have some familiarity with it when they watch. It's either that or familiarity with the players or both.

Bot honestly, I don't care what the rest of the world likes. I find soccer dull. I also find baseball and golf to be dull. In soccer all I see is a bunch of guys kicking a ball up and down for 90 minutes with sometimes no resolution at all. And sometimes, due to the fact you can have no resolution at all, they can kick the ball around for 90 minutes and not a single thing that happens matters because of the tournament scoring and goals they and others teams have scored in other games ... saw that with an Olympic match this summer.

You guys like soccer? That's cool. Have at.

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: In4ormant

Yeah it stops bleeding from broken noses, something an American football player will probably never experience hiding underneath all that armour lol

Apparently you know and understand very little of football.

I watched one game today and saw two bloody noses. After one game.

Also, soccer is a cool sport, but it's players are weak compared to NFL players.

BTW, stop calling soccer football. It was originally named soccer.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: jamespond

Actually the rest of the world plays football because it doesn't take as much equipment. All you need is a ball so that almost everyone can play. American football is expensive.

Sounds great but I doubt expense has too much effect tbh. Playing cricket is expensive but it's still more popular globally than American football

People tend to like best sports they have played because then they have some familiarity with it when they watch. It's either that or familiarity with the players or both.

No, people tend to like sports that they find interesting. American football exists because the US sees itself as a major sporting nation so it thinks it needs to create it's own sports, no matter how bad they may be. So basically, since everywhere else in the world can see this was a terrible invention, nothing but nationalism is keeping it alive.

Bot honestly, I don't care what the rest of the world likes. I find soccer dull. I also find baseball and golf to be dull. In soccer all I see is a bunch of guys kicking a ball up and down for 90 minutes with sometimes no resolution at all. And sometimes, due to the fact you can have no resolution at all, they can kick the ball around for 90 minutes and not a single thing that happens matters because of the tournament scoring and goals they and others teams have scored in other games ... saw that with an Olympic match this summer.

How can u call real football dull when in the American version, I believe the games last for around 3 hours, and only 11 minutes of that is actual playing time!!!

You guys like soccer? That's cool. Have at.

I've got to admit,, American football is total crap as #, every time i've watched the Superbowl it's on an add brake/commercial every 10-15 minutes and dudes taking a sleep every 5 minutes lol...I'm no big fan of rugby ether but I'd rather watch real dudes play a full half without sleeping on the field every 5 minutes or so lol.

Only my view (or others) but maybe the US and the UK should play NFL style (padded/bubble wrap and pampered) vs UK rugby style (clothes) and see who wins??...I'd become a fan of both if they play each other.

I don't watch football/soccer ether (used to play all the time as a kid) so won't say anything about it.

I must be lame cause i'm an Formula 1 fan. love F1 zoom zoom cars going fast lol.

hockey>all

a reply to: jamespond

No.

American football diverged from rugby and similar games thanks to Walter Camp who felt that such games were disorganized mobs. He introduced that big difference which was the line of scrimmage. He also introduced the center to quarterback snap. After that yardage and down rules followed and then the forward pass.

It's not that we thought we were "better" than you, just that our taste in sports differed and produced a different game.

American football grew in popularity because it was played by colleges and rivalries grew out of that with pride attached to school and game the same way you folks across the pond get attached to your soccer teams. This eventually enabled the pro leagues.

ive played both American football and rugby. Two differnt sports both are fun. American football is more like a sprinter yeah the action isn't non stop but every single down you play as if it's the last play of your life you go as hard and fast as possible. Rugby is like a long distance runner yeah you are moving more but you are bursting as much. The hits in American football are much more vicious and hurt more for the most part. A few times a game in a rugby match you will have a collision that is on par with a normal football hit. I'm sure if the entire world liked football like America does other country's would put together athletes to compete with Americans vica versa I'm sure if Americans bought into soccer and rugby we would have some damn good teams there too. The Canuck in this thread Is just ignorant that's all

a reply to: gortex

They don't have to wear pads because they aren't nearly as strong or fast as American football players. It's not even a comparison. I don't wear pads to work . Show me a 6'6" 250 lb rugby player who can run the 100m in 11 seconds......

a reply to: ketsuko

Exactly! All I'm saying is that, our version of football (as well as most other sports invented over here) caught on, without us having to force feed it to anyone. On the other hand, your's didn't, and there's a very good reason as to why.

a reply to: Tempter
We will stop calling it football when you stop replacing other sports names and adding america to the front, when only 1 squad member actually uses his foot.

For me I'm not a fan of specialist job roles. Soccer (can't believe I have to say that) you have to defend and attack, as one unit. American football you have one dedicated role and that's it. It's as though you turned manufacturing into a sport.

I do like to watch highlights and enjoy the 2 dimensional tactic aspect but the commercials interupting every 10 seconds ruins the game for the rest of the world.

Difference between americans and Europeans is we have a better understanding of both rugby and American football and fail to acknowledge you misunderstanding of how brutal rugby is. All this sideways tackles and not full on blows perception you have over there is rather laughable. All I can say is imagine your sport without pads and helmets and add a fee stone of muscle to each tackle.

Try tackling someone with your head without a helmet.

originally posted by: Tempter


BTW, stop calling soccer football. It was originally named soccer.

Since the rules were invented in 1863 the game has been called football, hence the name given to the governing body who created the rules, the FA (Football Association).

When the game arrived in the US, Canada, Australia & New Zealand those nations gave it the name Soccer so it wouldn't be confused with their own versions of football (NFL, Aussie Rules & Rugby).

So just to be clear, we get the naming rights

a reply to: mousse7714
You have it completely wrong. So wrong. Rugby players are far far stronger. You may be referring to explosive energy, because the players know they can rest after taking that hit and reorganise. Rugby players get hit, distribute, get hit again 50 more times by people over 16 stone before they can have a break. Being clotheslined with a helmet is far less dangerous than without.

I know the American people want high intensity spurts for entertainment in their sports (baseball excluded obviously )but Europe want strength and endurance. It's hard to relate to your perceptions when rugby is far more dangerous, way more powerful and more enduring. And I don't even like rugby cos of its lack of dimensions like NFL.