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originally posted by: pianopraze
originally posted by: DigitalVigilante420
a reply to: pianopraze
People love him, here, despite what you say.
Please do not put words in my mouth. I did not say that and you are being dishonest.
See my above post and a couple others in this thread where I acknowledge that many people support him. It is a different culture. My mom equates marijuana use to heroin use...a lot of people in the Philippines are just as ignorant.
There is a problem, but surely there are humane ways of handling this crisis.
Do the people who had their child murdered by him love him?
You said "most of the people I know there..." insinuating it was high percent of locals... so not putting words in your mouth. Truth is .2% distrust him 91% trust him.
I feel very sorry for people who's lives are destroyed by their choice to turn to drugs. But I feel even more sympathy for those who didn't choose and their lives were destroyed by drug users. A 49% downturn in rape, domestic violence, robbery, etc equates to a lot of people with better lives.
Again. There are no roving death squads here. Most murders are done by drug pushers eliminating those about to testify against them. MSM is strait up lying and distorting.
Duterte, who has been Davao's mayor or vice-mayor for most of the past 30 years, has denied any involvement in the murders. "I never did that," he said on the campaign trail in April, responding to allegations he had directed the killings. An Office of the Ombudsman investigation also found there was no evidence connecting Duterte to the murders.
He has, though, repeatedly condoned them.
For example, in comments to reporters in 2009, he warned: "If you are doing an illegal activity in my city, if you are a criminal or part of a syndicate that preys on the innocent people of the city, for as long as I am the mayor, you are a legitimate target of assassination.”
And more recently he has vowed to wipe out crime in six months across the country by killing criminals, drug pushers and "sons of bitches" after he takes office on June 30.
www.reuters.com...
originally posted by: DigitalVigilante420
originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: Voyaging
Its not up to us to justify anything. It's none of our damn business.
If the people of Philippines like the guy and everything that he's doing, then it does not matter what we think. If he's killing criminals, don't matter their age, I have no problem with that
Have some regard for your fellow human beings, please.
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
It'll work as well as your beloved democracy did in Iraq. Dictator in Iraq = stable country. Your ideals in Iraq = ISIS.
originally posted by: DigitalVigilante420
a reply to: RedDragon
It'll work as well as your beloved democracy did in Iraq. Dictator in Iraq = stable country. Your ideals in Iraq = ISIS.
Not your fault, but you obviously have no idea what country I am from or am living in.
Baseless assumptions don't lead to much IMO.
I'm not forcing my ideals on anyone, I am just expressing my outrage to this situation.
Never thought I would use Phage's signature in a post but:
Get your facts straight before you distort them.
Aguirre: Case vs. De Lima over illegal drug trade to be filed this week
originally posted by: pianopraze
Oh but there is....
originally posted by: Puppylove
If we don't take back our rule of law soon and instead let it fall further and further into corruption we might become the Philippines or some version of it.
originally posted by: worldstarcountry
So yes, Martial Law in Chicago sounds like something that we could try temporarily to regain control of neighborhoods to the people and away from criminals.
originally posted by: intrptr
Why be careful what you make up? Because this is ATS...
originally posted by: DigitalVigilante420
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: DigitalVigilante420
Come on folks, do you really want to justify these killings?
Well they could just let the drug dealers operate. That results in many more deaths from addiction plus crime and murder from turf wars.
If his reasons are true and he's after the cartels and not just making his power base more secure and justifying more security to crush any resistance... then one has to cut out the cancer. Remember the battle with Pablo Escobar? It was way more bloody.
I think it's a good thing that he's addressing his country's drug problem as foreign interests are mostly behind it, but as previously mentioned his methods are barbaric. I know that extraordinary times deserve extraordinary measures but this is overkill.
He's a loose cannon and needs to be contained.
As mentioned in another thread, why doesn't he go after the child molesters and human traffickers first, that is a bigger problem and the victims of these crimes often turn to drugs.