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Ford shifting all u.s. Small car production to Mexico

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posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:09 AM
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More jobs are leaving the country. Smh...

www.freep.com...

When I see stories like this I can only wonder what people would have thought about this a hundred years ago. Our former and current elected representatives have sold their souls. That can be the only explanation for our current business environment in the United States. They gave it all away.

I can't blame ford for this decision as I sit on my bench watching all kinds of cars drive past. The brands are Kia, Hyundai, oh there's a Volkswagen. I write this while wearing my made in Sri Lanka hat, my Chinese shoes and my shirt from El Salvador. Yes I looked at the labels to see. We did this to ourselves but hey money talks.

I can now buy a Subaru or Toyota built in my home state "Chevy truck to".
So do I buy an American made vehicle now? What is an American made vehicle?
Mexican ford or indiana Toyota?
Funny how foreign automakers can build cars in America and make a profit but American automakers can't.

Our goverment failed to protect our economy and we the people let them get away with it. Hopefully our children will be smarter than we were.




posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
More jobs are leaving the country. Smh...

www.freep.com...

When I see stories like this I can only wonder what people would have thought about this a hundred years ago. Our former and current elected representatives have sold their souls. That can be the only explanation for our current business environment in the United States. They gave it all away.

I can't blame ford for this decision as I sit on my bench watching all kinds of cars drive past. The brands are Kia, Hyundai, oh there's a Volkswagen. I write this while wearing my made in Sri Lanka hat, my Chinese shoes and my shirt from El Salvador. Yes I looked at the labels to see. We did this to ourselves but hey money talks.

I can now buy a Subaru or Toyota built in my home state "Chevy truck to".
So do I buy an American made vehicle now? What is an American made vehicle?
Mexican ford or indiana Toyota?
Funny how foreign automakers can build cars in America and make a profit but American automakers can't.

Our goverment failed to protect our economy and we the people let them get away with it. Hopefully our children will be smarter than we were.



This is the fault of the UAW who negotiated themselves out of job. Zerohedge had a great chart showing why Ford is making the move.

Average auto worker in Mexico makes $3.29/hr vs $23.83 for a US. The move is expected to save Ford $1300 per car in costs.

I think tariffs are the only way to level the playing field. Our standard of living is too high for the American worker to compete on a global scale.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:19 AM
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money.cnn.com...


Ford said there will be zero job losses in the U.S. as a result of the new plant in Mexico. The Wayne, Michigan, plant that now builds the Focus and C-Max that will move to Mexico will instead start building other models -- probably the new Ford Bronco SUV and Ranger small pickup.


That's what Ford had to say about this issue.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated
greed.. because im sure no matter how much they save by moving to mexico, the cost will not go down, will continually rise like everything else.. greed.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:21 AM
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Our standard of living is too high for the American worker to compete on a global scale.


Absa freakin lutely the truth.




Average auto worker in Mexico makes $3.29/hr vs $23.83 for a US. The move is expected to save Ford $1300 per car in costs.


regardless what the Unions have done and if we get rid of them all it will not stop jobs going overseas when there is such an incentive for companies to exploit third world wages and lack of labor laws.

Perhaps they need to start Global unions, That will Sh1t the hell out of the Corps.
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posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

& it's only going to get worse from here on out..



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: Bluntone22

& it's only going to get worse from here on out..


There is definitely a big shift of things coming. Between complete corporate control of gov't and automation things should get really interesting.

I wrote back a while ago that the scariest doom porn was Walmart Spending 250 Billion to bring back jobs ot the US

If Walmart really planned that , than one of the likely reasons is that they foresee our standard of living to drop to a level that we would be willing to compete with third world countries.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated


It's much more than hourly wages.
$23 a hour is straight pay. Add in workmanship comp, health insurance and pension.
Now it's closer to $50 an hour.
The Mexican is still getting $3.29.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: Edumakated




Our standard of living is too high for the American worker to compete on a global scale.


Absa freakin lutely the truth.




Average auto worker in Mexico makes $3.29/hr vs $23.83 for a US. The move is expected to save Ford $1300 per car in costs.


regardless what the Unions have done and if we get rid of them all it will not stop jobs going overseas when there is such an incentive for companies to exploit third world wages and lack of labor laws.

Perhaps they need to start Global unions, That will Sh1t the hell out of the Corps.


This is why I believe tariffs are necessary. I also believe the American consumer needs to wake the f up. Companies are responding to price pressure. The consumer needs to show these companies they value "american made" products and put their money where their mouth is.

It is no different how people are willing to go to Whole Paycheck, I mean Whole Foods to buy non-GMO, farm to table, locally sourced stuff. You have to do that with other products to and companies will respond in kind. Electronics, cars, clothes, etc.

If you don't the company will assume you don't care and then move their operations overseas to save money.

I regularly pay more to keep my business local. Instead of going to Wal-Mart, I go to a local toy store to buy my son's toys. Instead of going on line, I buy books at a local bookstore. I may pay a little more, but it keeps jobs in my community and I benefit by having a nice downtown with businesses that know my name.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:37 AM
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i see a trump speech in the near future...
'mexicans stole my ford'.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: stinkelbaum
i see a trump speech in the near future...
'mexicans stole my ford'.


He already addressed the topic in flint Michigan.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:42 AM
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This is the type of thing that Trump is campaigning against right? Or am I mistaken here?



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:44 AM
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Ford's projected revenue was also lowered (saw it somewhere in the last couple days). So, this announcement does not surprise me. So what do companies do when they want to increase the bottom line for themselves, uh, I mean, "investors"? Why screw over the workers and off-shore all labor! Yeah, that'll work (sarcasm). A properly trained work force has years of specific knowledge on how/why the process works the way it does. This knowledge does not transfer easily or quickly. I am watching that happen with IT jobs as more jobs are off-shored to India. It does not work for IT and I don't expect it to work for auto manufacturing.

If they really wanted to make some news, they would pull a Toyota and announce the end of internal combustion engines by 2030 (just like Toyota did). See, everything is going to run on electricity. Nuclear fusion is the death of big oil which is why the Rockefellers dumped all their oil holdings in a Thanksgiving Day announcement for "green" technologies. Why on Thanksgiving? Because a few months earlier Lockheed Martin Skunkworks announced their nuclear fusion breakthrough. There have been 2 vanadium redox flow battery installations in the last few days. Power distribution has to be more managed and storage is going to play a big part in these changes. And all these changes means fusion is coming.


[ETA: Oh, "small cars". Those are the ones that should be targeted for all electric conversion so do not see a net gain by shifting to Mexico]
edit on 15-9-2016 by TEOTWAWKIAIFF because: Need more coffee and better reading skillz



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
money.cnn.com...


Ford said there will be zero job losses in the U.S. as a result of the new plant in Mexico. The Wayne, Michigan, plant that now builds the Focus and C-Max that will move to Mexico will instead start building other models -- probably the new Ford Bronco SUV and Ranger small pickup.


That's what Ford had to say about this issue.


Apparently those posting on this thread don't want to read what you posted.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: ware2010
a reply to: Edumakated
greed.. because im sure no matter how much they save by moving to mexico, the cost will not go down, will continually rise like everything else.. greed.



To be fair its not really just greed but survival:
Corporations have unrealistic and unattainable goals to infinitely increase their value or profits for eternity. It is also their number 1 priority.

Also they are not breaking the law albeit because they create the law.


It is also not Corporate Americas fault , its the fault of the Political cheerleaders.

The political cheerleaders as I call them , are the people that don't hold their own party accountable , shift blame elsewhere, and blindly support their party no matter what .

It is because of these political cheerleaders that gov't doesn't answer to the people any longer and only answers to Corporate America.

Hence our problem.

Our gov't answers only to Corporate America who are desperate under unrealistic goals of always beating last years profits and growth.

Since They are under such unrealistic pressures , Corporate America has to cheat to survive and they cheat buy pushing back the grey areas further and further away by unethical misrepresented lobbying.

Hence we end up with such stupid things as Corporations are people , our gov't selling us out for anything, and our Corporations making decisions based on short term vs long term that bites us in the Butt .



/rant
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posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: introvert
money.cnn.com...


Ford said there will be zero job losses in the U.S. as a result of the new plant in Mexico. The Wayne, Michigan, plant that now builds the Focus and C-Max that will move to Mexico will instead start building other models -- probably the new Ford Bronco SUV and Ranger small pickup.


That's what Ford had to say about this issue.


Apparently those posting on this thread don't want to read what you posted.


You aren't reading between the lines. Instead of opening a new plant, they are moving it to Mexico. The thing is this spreads throughout the economy. Here locally in Chicago, we have a tool maker who primarily services car manufacturers. He is moving his operation to Mexico so he can be closer to his customers. It makes sense, but it costs jobs here locally too.

Tool Maker Moving to Mexico



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: introvert
money.cnn.com...


Ford said there will be zero job losses in the U.S. as a result of the new plant in Mexico. The Wayne, Michigan, plant that now builds the Focus and C-Max that will move to Mexico will instead start building other models -- probably the new Ford Bronco SUV and Ranger small pickup.


That's what Ford had to say about this issue.


Apparently those posting on this thread don't want to read what you posted.



Well if you want to take ford at their word, feel free.
The fact is that they are adding more production to their line of vehicles and are adding those jobs to Mexico. When the time comes to make job cuts, which factory do ya think will be cut?



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:55 AM
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Ford may have said there will be zero job losses, but there will be zero NEW jobs for American workers because those just went to Mexico.

I agree with Trump. For now, I think we need to halt the out-of-control collapse of jobs here in America. We need to focus on America first for now with policies that address the unfair trade practices, tariffs, and corporate no-sting policies.

For now....American first for the next few years at least. Rebuild and update our infrastructure, our inner cities, our economy, etc. etc. To hell with the globalist push to bring America down a notch. We have people hurting, too.

I loved Trump's words today (paraphrasing): It used to be we built cars in Flint and couldn't drink the water in Mexico. Now it's, we build cars in Mexico and can't drink the water in Flint!

So true. Time (for now) to put America first.....let me correct that....AMERICANS first.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:57 AM
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Apparently those posting on this thread don't want to read what you posted.


I think people read it, but with valid skepticism for the future. Plus I think this thread is more than just about Ford.

Although It could have just been as easily worded as :
Ford to create new Jobs in Mexico, while keeping job growth stagnate in the US.



posted on Sep, 15 2016 @ 11:59 AM
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For those of you too young to remember that giant sucking sound... Ross Perot lays it out clear as day. Funny thing is the example he uses is cars and Mexico. Prophetic.

He also points out that it raises Mexico's standard of living while bringing ours down which is exactly what happens.




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