Tell me this.. Why is Nazism still alive today?

Tell me... I thought WW2 was done and over. Nazism never existed during WW1. Now we have so much of them in different parts of the world specifically the west. What is going on here?

originally posted by: makemap
Tell me... I thought WW2 was done and over. Nazism never existed during WW1. Now we have so much of them in different parts of the world specifically the west. What is going on here?

There has always been Nazism.

It's just Authoritarian rule.

It appeals to people who feel powerless.

Sal

a reply to: makemap

Because the global agenda uses the name as controlled opposition.

During and after WW2, both East and West powers used it as "denazification" tool to hide their own polices.

a reply to: makemap

Because you cannot kill an idea, but you can create firestorms over hundreds of thousands of people thus squashing any notions of militarization.

Why is racism or sexism or even gay bashing or war or genocide or classism still a thing? Well, because some ignorant fool long ago said he didn't like something, gathered around him a group of like minded anti humans and propagated the division; the deception. Pride. There are those that by looking down on others, puff themselves up higher than everyone. It's the most basic form of ignorance, but fortunately, ignorance is a disease that will ultimately kill off those susceptible to it. Don't lose hope, they will all soon be gone.

a reply to: makemap

We are so much easier to control when we are in our separate little clubs. Re-pubs, dems, conservative, liberal, black white, libertarian, christian, jew......

If we all (could) got along, imagine.

a reply to: makemap

Could it be because Germany lost WW2, but the Nazi's won?
Operation Paperclip did the seeding...
And now without Britain, what does the EU look like now?
Couldn't find the book but here is a related video....
Rise of the fourth reich
Just waiting for the Sieg heil emoticons!

Because while Germany may have lost WWII, the Nazis--national socialism--most certainly did not.

It's almost everywhere you look, for those who have eyes to see.

a reply to: makemap

Nazism is just a name. There are very few Nazis (those who venerate a fuhrer and promote a fourth reich).

There are lots of fascists though. It is just people being lazy with their descriptors.

a reply to: SallieSunshine

That, bingo, mainly says it. Besides serious mental defect, it is like bullies.

a reply to: makemap

The short answer, is because we didn't have them all shot. All of them. We did not use their own tools and ideal against them, we did not turn on them with the same vigour that they turned on their fellow man. I would imagine that somewhere behind that was a high minded ideal of being the better man, or some such. Laudable, noble even, but not very effective.

You see, the first thing that one needs to understand about National Socialism, is that it's very name is a lie. Socialism is not what the Nazi party were about in the least, and if you study the period, you will see that genuine socialists were just as likely to be jailed or disappeared as any other group the Nazis disliked. You will also, upon searching the terms "The difference between Socialism, and Nazism" note that a key feature of socialism, the idea that the workers own the method of production, was actually absolutely opposite to the FACTS of what the Nazis actually put into motion.

This lie did two very important things for the Nazi party. First, it duped genuine socialists into initially supporting the party, getting newspapers on side, getting pamphlets out, getting workers groups motivated and fired up to know more and get involved with the Nazi growth spurt. But it did something else too. It totally obfuscated what they were actually about, what their actual motivations and beliefs were, meaning that even those who had no interest in them particularly, saw no more danger from that organisation, than they did from their local miners benevolent fund, or similar.

But this has had an effect beyond these two, an effect which continues to this day. This ages old obfuscation, has allowed generations of people to be fooled into believing that Socialsim itself was the root and branch of the Nazi ideal. It has meant that right wing groups which appeared to be Nazi in all but name, could slide past any association with the Nazis, in saying "Surely you jest, these Nazis were socialists! We are proud to sit on the right wing of political matters!".

The most dangerous thing about the Nazi party, was that it was founded on sleight of hand, lies within lies, even their very name being a veil with which to hide the true nature of their political and physical aims, those being the destruction of all that was not white and conforming to the "ideal".

When so few people are prepared to accept that the Nazis were even a right wing fascist organisation, it becomes very difficult to come up with a way to combat this particular brand of villainy, and very easy for villains to deflect blame elsewhere. Talking heads and corporate bodies like to use Nazism to poo poo modern socialism, because it is easy. People, by and large, do not understand enough about politics, history, or the specifics of the Nazi threat, to be able to see past the lies told to them.

And this is very helpful to anyone wanting to roll as a fascist.

You see, fascism, where the corporations and the government are all mingled up into one element, is a method for controlling a populations people, and their pockets, with the same tool. If a government is the corporation which owns all the material wealth, and all the means of producing anything, then the people are beholden to them, and this means that the fascism can get away with anything it likes.

Corporations do VERY well out of fascism, if they play their cards right, which is yet another reason that it is very dangerous to have corporations and their money, so close to ones nations politics, why capitalisms have to be very careful that their close business ties do not develop into full blown amalgamation between one and the other.

The prison system, the military industrial complex, these are both examples, and not the only ones by any stretch, of corporate interests getting so close to government operations and interests, that they may as well be one singular entity. Protest about these, and you will be called a socialist, and the ignorant may go as far to call you a Nazi. But in truth, Nazism is fascism, and there are a great many distinctly fascist elements operating and supporting these systems.

All of this made possible by one very clever, devious, evil lie, which made death look like life, and life appear as death to generations to come.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: makemap
Tell me... I thought WW2 was done and over. Nazism never existed during WW1. Now we have so much of them in different parts of the world specifically the west. What is going on here?

There has always been Nazism.

It's just Authoritarian rule.

Currently, it is white supremecists. Possibl in WWII it was a government structure and white supremacy. But now it is mainly the one.

originally posted by: SeeReeS
Why is racism or sexism or even gay bashing or war or genocide or classism still a thing? Well, because some ignorant fool long ago said he didn't like something, gathered around him a group of like minded anti humans and propagated the division; the deception. Pride. There are those that by looking down on others, puff themselves up higher than everyone. It's the most basic form of ignorance, but fortunately, ignorance is a disease that will ultimately kill off those susceptible to it. Don't lose hope, they will all soon be gone.

You are absolutely correct.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Because the global agenda uses the name as controlled opposition.

During and after WW2, both East and West powers used it as "denazification" tool to hide their own polices.

NO. It is a bad thing. It is not controlled opposition of anything.

a reply to: TrueBrit

The short answer, is because we didn't have them all shot.

That is a very good answer as well.

originally posted by: makemap
Tell me... I thought WW2 was done and over. Nazism never existed during WW1. Now we have so much of them in different parts of the world specifically the west. What is going on here?

Purely because I think it is interesting:

If you by 'nazism never existed in WW1' mean that The National Socialist German Workers' Party did not exist, well, then you are right. However, socialism was spreading throughout Europe at the time, particularly in Germany, and so was nationalism.

Antisemitism was strong too. It sounds horrible today, but back then, being (European) Catholic meant that you were probably antisemite.

So no, Die Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei did not exist during WWI, but the 'ingredients' surely did. In that sense, nazism is more than its name; more than a party. It is a set of ideas that, individually, is much, much older than we often think them to be.

originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: makemap

Nazism is just a name. There are very few Nazis (those who venerate a fuhrer and promote a fourth reich).

There are lots of fascists though. It is just people being lazy with their descriptors.

That is not true. I have seen coverage both from Europe and the US if these groups. They venerate the memory of Hitler. They attempt to follow the ideas.

a reply to: reldra

yes,the white supremist idealogy is to exterminate all non whites,or pure heritage people,the same as Hitler did with the jews.He repeated what the catholics did during the crusades.Donald trump is just repeating history.

a reply to: DupontDeux

Socialism has nothing to do with this.