Labour in turmoil after shadow cabinet exodus

So with all that's going on in the UK, the Labour party have decided that now is a great time to get rid of their leader for failing to lead a good enough campaign in the EU referendum.

"It comes after Mr Corbyn sacked Hilary Benn as shadow foreign secretary after reports he was co-ordinating a movement to unseat the party leader"
www.itv.com...

Unfortunately for elected Corbyn, his MP's weren't all that happy with his decision to give their friend the boot and as a result, at least 9 shadow members have resigned their positions. There is also talk of a vote of no confidence in Mr Corbyn.

Seems to me that Corbyn has been getting on some peoples nerves and Corbyn having heard this decided to take steps to stamp it out but in doing so set in motion his own downfall. I say bye bye, perhaps now Labour can set it's sights on improving it's image with a less parasitical man.

I've included some more reading material on the subject, this is still ongoing so keep an eye out for developments.

"Corbyn sabotaged Labour’s remain campaign. He must resign"
www.theguardian.com...
"Labour resignation letters in full: What Jeremy Corbyn's team said as they quit"
www.mirror.co.uk...

a reply to: thomadom

The whole U.K. Political System is in turmoil.

Labour M.P.s as you say have begun the process to try boot out Corbyn.

The Tories are in disarray between the " in's and out's "

The Chancellor George Osborne has " vanished ". Nothing has been seen or heard of him since last Thursday.

The SNP are planning to try and block The U.K's. withdrawl from The E.U. and also planning a second referendum for Scotland to leave The U.K.

Sinn Fein want a vote to unite The Two Irelands.

There is talk in The Welsh Assembly to try block the referundum result.

Some London Politicians want to leave England.

It's times like this that us British show how we can conquer adversity.

a reply to: alldaylong

If only Chancellor Osborne would indeed vanish permanently i don't see many poor people taking part in any search for him.

As to the SNP apparently planning to try and block The UKs withdrawal from The EU, how would that even work?

On the point of a second referendum, i think Scotland deserves one given the fact that we choose to remain in force, possibly a very different outcome would be on the card's this time around?

a reply to: alldaylong

Things look pretty bleak from the outside. The media have a habit of blowing things out of proportion, how else would they get recognition?

However this is an unprecedented situation and i feel the more informed we are as a nation the better equiped we will be to deal with it.
All this disarray within our own government instills zero confidence in their ability to dispell hysteria but i stand firm with my belief that the British can pull through this, you know stiff upper lip and all that...

a reply to: andy06shake

As to the SNP apparently planning to try and block The UKs withdrawal from The EU, how would that even work?

The SNP are consulting legal advisers to accertain if The Scottish Parliament has powers to veto the result of the referendum.

www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: alldaylong

I bet Osborne has done a runner with our pensions!.

The referendum vote itself is but a formality that the government ultimately is not bound to. Some people will seek to cause turmoil within the government, it is my belief this is happening as a tactic to force them to;
a) abolish all plans to leave the EU or
b) force the PM to proceed with trade agreements sooner rather than later
c) Motion a general election (which would explain why Labour are desperate to get rid of Corbyn sooner rather than later)

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

I bet Osborne has done a runner with our pensions!.

There is a rumour that Osbourne has been kidnapped but no one is prepared to pay the ransom.

On a serious note, since Cameron gave his resignation speech on Friday morning, he to has vanished.

Just tell your kids that their grandparents shat in their bed and now they have to go to sleep in it

a reply to: thomadom
Shame on you.

With all that's going on such as the possibility of the SNP blocking brexit or the Tory party imploding or the EU demanding quicker exit negotiations etc what do we have on the news. Those goddam whining Blairites leaving the shadow cabinet who have sat quietly for a few months waiting for an opportunity to re-start the whining and undermining of their leader. This is the opposition not the fricking leaderless government!!! NOT the people who will lead the UK out of the EU !!! NOT the people who could throw a spanner in the negotiations !!!!

Yet again the UK press distract the people from the real problem : The Tory Party.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

Sweet dreams.

Bustards

a reply to: alldaylong

Good grief! With all that turmoil, maybe its time for the Queen to call in the Royal Marines, march into Parliment and suspend it and take the reigns of governance. She could then null the Brexit vote while rounding up dissenters and Cameron and put them in schakels in the Tower or somewhere...........the Brit version of Gitmo.

a reply to: thomadom

Labour never should have been running a Remain campaign. No left wing political entity worth a brass plated turd, would vote to remain in an organisation which so closely marries business interests to political ones, as the EU does, because that way lies fascism in eventuality, and this is anathemic to any legitimate, left leaning ideal.

I do not know what the Labour Party were thinking in even campaigning. And I will tell you another thing for free as well. Jeremy Corbyn, in choosing to run such a campaign, whether it had been successful or not, has shown that, much to my dismay, and though it pains me to say it, vast surprise, has proven that he is no more of a genuine, grassroots, socialist than his predecessor, who was a Tory in a red tie at the best of times.

What a bloody disgrace.

a reply to: alldaylong

If he’s got his briefcase, can’t he just pay it himself?

a reply to: yorkshirelad

Just because i shared this doesn't mean everyone has forgotten all other problems our government faces. So don't be rude by trying to shame people into thinking that this isn't important.
All facets of government should be analysed. And the shadow cabinet hold a very important role in providing opposition to those in power, without them who kmows how much the tories could have screwed us.

a reply to: TrueBrit

You are so right'
The Labour Party have well and truely screwed things for themselves imo.

Between an embarrassing recent general election and Corbyn's failed remain campaign i say Labour has a lot of butt kissing to do now.

a reply to: thomadom
I have to declare an interest as a life-long conservative (I was the winning Conservative candidate in my school's Mock General Election in 1970).

That perspective creates an complex set of reactions;
One identifies Jeremy Corbyn as rubbish.
From a Conservative viewpoint, it is quite useful, up to a point, that the Labour party should have a rubbish leader. There is a persistent rumour that mischief-making Conservatives helped to get him elected. I read a letter in the Daily Telegraph in which the writer called it the best thirty pounds (or whatever) that he had ever spent.
At the same time, it isn't in the long-term interest that a rubbish leader should have a potential impact on national policy decisions, so I have a lot of sympathy with those in his party who want to get rid of him.

The root of the problem is the silly populism of throwing open the election to national membership.
Let us, for the moment, set aside the Labour Party constitution.
In terms of the British constitution, a Prime Minister is chosen by his ability to command the votes of a majority of M.P.'s. Not voters. Not party workers. People sitting in the House of Commons.
Therefore it makes no sense to have a leader of the Parliamentary party, and potential Prime Minister, elected by anyone other than the members of the Parliamentary party. They are the people who would have to support him by their votes in the Commons. As we have just discovered, the current system leads to the absurd possibility that that they are expected to support a man they do not want or trust.

If it were necessary, and other methods of removing him were unavailing, would the Labour M.P.'s have the courage to adopt the more drastic approach which the British Constitution makes available to them? That is they could all resign the party whip and form a new parliamentary grouping. Nothing in the British Constitution would oblige them to follow the new custom of resigning seats and fighting by-elections. If the defection were large enough, Corbyn would cease to be leader of the largest opposition group. If the defecting group outnumbered the SNP, their newly-chosen leader would have a rightful claim on the salary and duties of the Leader of the Opposition.
Of course it would lead to turmoil in the constituencies, but there's going to be turmoil anyway, and desperate situations call for desperate measures. It could pay dividends in the long term.

a reply to: thomadom

Problem is occasionally Corbyn speaks the truth although he doesn't seem to have the personality to present it firmly and effectively.

However we are in a period where I don't think Corbyn is any less adept than cameron ever was both are a no show for the British people.

I looked through the list of leavers and was sadden to note that that disgusting Diane Abbot with her racial prejudices hadn't obviously decided to quit her butt from a choice job.

We need a general election now because the cons are so far removed from the public and the labour is in totally meltdown and we could do with loosing a two party system that professes the same politics - which is what we got during this referendum.

Its important for Labour to get a grip because when we leave the EU we will need 21st century trade unions to look after our workers conditions yet with knowledge of how their money is earned and the competition. There is a lot to be done especially on things like Zero contracts and unnecessary regulations removed.

a reply to: thomadom

IMO the Labour cacus has been looking for any excuse to axe Corbyn ever since he became leader of the opposition. NZ Labour has or is experiencing such pains due to having members and Unions be the main force in electing the party leader. Coming back to Corbyn all he could have accomplished is getting a Conservative Government re-elected.

originally posted by: thomadom
a reply to: TrueBrit

You are so right'
The Labour Party have well and truely screwed things for themselves imo.

Between an embarrassing recent general election and Corbyn's failed remain campaign i say Labour has a lot of butt kissing to do now.

Labour has no Butt kissing to do. The Blairites are afraid Corbyn will call for Blair to be arrested as a war criminal once the damning Chilcott report is published on the 6th July.

Corbyn has the support at grass roots level, despite what people say, which is more than any of the Blairites will receive.

As someone has already stated here, the media, particularly the BBC are using this to divert attention to the complete meltdown in the Tory party.