This is Just the Begining

a reply to: CharlesT

The UK is not getting out of the EU! The ruling class simply will not let it happen. Do you truly think the UK politicians work for the people?

If we aren't getting out of the EU and the "ruling class" won't let it happen, then how come they didn't rig the vote?

Surely that would have been easy for the all powerful "ruling class" wouldn't it?

Not everything is a conspiracy....sometimes democracy works!

a reply to: Egoismyname

Yeah ok... I hear you. Maybe so.

But why...? "fluffily"? Please clarify.

a reply to: redhorse

He wants it to be fluffy. Fluffy batter, fluffy clouds. Fluffy.

The Beginning?

I was looking at the financial charts and noticed that the Japanese NIKKEI market plunged almost 8 percent.
That was *Before* The UK FTSE opened on Friday morning.

www.sgxniftydowfutureslive.com...

So the EU Brexit vote was actually choreographed in Japan hours earlier?
There seems to be a little trouble with cause and effect here..

If the Brexit vote was held on Thursday why didn't it make the news till the world markets crashed?

originally posted by: Egoismyname
a reply to: TomLawless

If you expect all people on public forums to express opinion in a fashion which is suitable to your persona, you are quite wrong.

A little off on the statement. Let me correct it for you

If you expect all people on public forums to express opinion in a fashion which is suitable to any forum, you are quite wrong.

Actually , in the context of the latter, it should be right.
First you draw some pretty illogical comparisons. Then throughout the OP and the posts you have there is no substance . Nowhere have you expressed a clear , concise point of view as to why either the "train" or the "doughnut" is going to happen . Or any logical statements to back up your "doom and gloom" statements. You knock other ATS members from other threads that most have stated their reasoning why they uphold the British decision. Yet , you offer no counterpoint. "Just words,just speeches".

The people of Britain will be just fine without the EU. As the one nation that didnt go to the Euro and kept their British Pound Sterling, that is going to help.

a reply to: Gothmog

Sweden kept their currency too..

As for this thread... I have no idea..

a reply to: butcherguy

We need the drones and androids to be more up to speed first.
A couple more years and the Theater will be ready.

The next great war will be us against THEM.
Us being the entire world and them being the entire world's militaries. The elite and top brass will be underground, hiding out and coordinating attacks from their bunkers.
At the end after the "war" is over, the drones and droids are programed to destroy each other.

Then the survivors emerge from their underground bunkers and off grid strongholds and rebuild.

a reply to: Argyll

theintercept.com...

British Exit From EU Not Inevitable, Despite Referendum

In the first hours after the British public voted to exit the European Union, amid all sorts of triumphal statements and recriminations, one declaration was notably absent: the formal notification to the EU that the United Kingdom intends to leave the organization, which is required to start the clock on negotiations for a departure.

Prime Minister David Cameron, who led the failed campaign to convince voters to stay in the EU, told the public that an exit would not happen soon, as he intended to resign in three months and leave it to his successor to decide “when to trigger Article 50″ of the union’s basic agreement, the Lisbon Treaty, which says that a member state has two years after declaring its desire to leave to negotiate the terms of its exit.

“In voting to leave the EU, it is vital to stress that there is no need for haste,” Johnson said, “and indeed, as the prime minister has just said, nothing will change over the short term, except that work will have to begin on how to give effect to the will of the people and to extricate this country from the supranational system.”

Given that the popular mandate his side had just won was summed up in a single word on the backdrop behind him, “Leave,” it seemed odd that Johnson made no mention of the fastest way to get that process started, by pressing for an immediate Article 50 declaration.

That fact did not escape observers in other parts of Europe, like the former foreign minister of Sweden, Carl Bildt.

The reason could be that Johnson has something very different in mind: a negotiated compromise that would preserve most of the benefits of EU membership for British citizens and businesses but still satisfy the popular will to escape the attendant responsibilities and costs.



Turns out the referendum is, more or less, a request from the people for the UK government to consider pulling out of the EU but is not an ironclad mandate.

originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: CharlesT

If we aren't getting out of the EU and the "ruling class" won't let it happen, then how come they didn't rig the vote?

They did.

They wanted the people to "beg" to remain in the EU.

So, they rigged the vote to say "leave".

Now the people are doing exactly what they planned, they are begging for 2nd chance.

You see, it's just psychology.

Nobody wants something they already have. It's only when you take it away, that they want it.

Now they really want in the EU.

So, when they get in this time, they will be happy.

So just because the NWO (supposedly) doesn't need the EU, the EU is a good thing and people shouldn't want to leave? No, people demanded a change and this itself is a possitive thing. Whether they will be fooled again is a separate issue. But one thing's for sure - there won't be a possitive change if people don't demand it (Like they started to).

So what next, with the Euro weakening this IS a good time for China to take those tons of gold gathered over the years, and back their currency with it, promoting a strong new world currency exchange standard, with new loans?

Seriously, are there countries not owing them money today already?
How much would currencies and economies shrink and bind if the dollar shifted WITH the Euro ... 30-40% maybe?

Then praise the new Chinese loans; and sigh for the eventual transfer of assets and property (like islands for example) to appease those long term interest dues coupled with inability to pay.

They are thinking generationally - the long haul, survival like history itself looks favorably to the one in charge, the winner!

a reply to: mkpetrov

I am very happy when I see people standing for themselves, yet history shows us the grave fact that in 95% of examples people get misled by social propaganda easily as geese. I am not against anything happy and freedom bringing in this world, but I am cautious for maneuvers which may dig a grave, two or few million. In all present/past manipulated world conflicts one of the sides is playing the "freedom fighters" always. So freedom is not so safe word in my dictionary. Nothing is safe.

...and the more they tell you that they’re taking you to a secure location where you’ll be safe, the more you can be certain that they’re going to kill you.

-Tom Cruise