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Anti-Transgender Speech Will Get You Two Years In prison in Canada

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posted on May, 26 2016 @ 03:05 AM
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I too have seen way to many transgender articles here at ATS but I believe this one to be the most shocking. See for yourself.


Criminal Code 2014, c. 31, s. 12


3 Subsection 318(4) of the Criminal Code is replaced by the following:

Definition of identifiable group

(4) In this section, identifiable group means any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, national or ethnic origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or mental or physical disability.
Prohibited grounds of discrimination

3 (1) For all purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, marital status, family status, disability and conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered.
Clause 1: Existing text of section 2:

2 The purpose of this Act is to extend the laws in Canada to give effect, within the purview of matters coming within the legislative authority of Parliament, to the principle that all individuals should have an opportunity equal with other individuals to make for themselves the lives that they are able and wish to have and to have their needs accommodated, consistent with their duties and obligations as members of society, without being hindered in or prevented from doing so by discriminatory practices based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, disability or conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered.
Trudeau is throwing everything he has into getting this passed and Canada’s ruling political party is committed to the passage of this bill. This bill will ban anti-transgender speech, including both gender identity and gender expression, with up to 2 years in prison for violators. The bill is an incremental extension of their existing “Hate Speech” laws.

What constitutes an offense in Canada? It depends on who you ask. It is a clear attempt to muzzle free speech. For example, if you wanted to protest transgender bathrooms in Canada’s target, you could be thrown in prison for 2 years because you are “speaking out” against these practices.

The bill expands it to include any public speech or communication that “promotes hatred” on the basis of “gender identity” or “gender expression.” Two years? Yes, this bill is not symbolic, speech that someone deems offensive can send you to jail for up to two years.

The Government is the Judge As to What Constitutes Hate Speech.

As in the US, the federal government judicial system will ultimately decide who will be charged. And as in the US, homosexual activist groups are “lobbying” the government along the same lines.

The far left Prime-minster, Trudeau, announced the bill in a speech on May 17, which happened to be “International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and any other perversion flavor the week.


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I hope you will finish reading the article. Due to this law and it vagueness if this law passes then it will be illegal for anyone to preach in a house of God, out in public and possibly inside your home concerning religious views on transgender people. Doing so could get you up to two years in prison.

Do you think this to be fair?




posted on May, 26 2016 @ 03:20 AM
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I think what I find most worrying is this statement here given the context is social acceptance

duties and obligations as members of society

Duties and obligations...social issues...freedom of speech, opinion, and expression.
duties and obligations.

this isn't socialism..its communism. people shouldn't have obligations in society for social viewpoints. the diversity of ideas requires no obligations or duties on how you are supposed to think. Society norms are not laws, just norms..the second you put laws on it (absurd example but relevant, make it illegal to not say have a nice day to people when you are departing) is the second people need to wake the hell up and see this not as some sort of brave equality thing, but of legal state control of your very thoughts and expression.

Canada is becoming very worrying.

edit on 26-5-2016 by SaturnFX because: fixed a thing



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 03:36 AM
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The Canuck ZAMPOLITS are working overtime... call me when it get 's out of hand..www.youtube.com...
We are GOOD at battling these socialist punks.
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posted on May, 26 2016 @ 03:49 AM
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going to prison for WORDS is always too much no matter the context.
to think i could end up in jail next to some dude that killed a store clerk for using words against anyone (no matter how wrong) is just mental.
tolerance through zero tolerance is not a solution to anything it just makes the problem worse



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:03 AM
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There are many things I do not understand about Canadian law and free speech. Obviously, the US has more liberty in that department.

The entire TG issue isn't something I can rally behind. I am all for equality, but I believe people should use the correct restrooms according to their own plumbing. That would be equal IMO.

Other than that I am trying to stay away from the issue.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:09 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

This really wouldn't surprise me. Canada proving again they consider their opinions to override god's.

I can't wait to leave Canada forever. Im sick of living amongst such a primitive people that think if you're born here you're their property. I'm getting ready now to save up 6 months living expenses then I'm finding somewhere else to go. I don't agree with anything this country does. They feel it's fine to offend me everyday and their so arrogant and controlling they expect me to never talk when I disagree.

Canada truly is one of the worst countries on earth. Watching these people is like watching A bunch of beta males monkeys pretending to be alphas.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:15 AM
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a reply to: Grimpachi



Obviously, the US has more liberty in that department.

I hate short replies . But NFL





posted on May, 26 2016 @ 05:16 AM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

I was going to say something. You pretty much nailed it.






posted on May, 26 2016 @ 05:31 AM
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Would you people stop freaking out?

This law applies to people who use their speech to suggest violent action against people. Please look at how many hate speech crimes are prosecuted in Canada every year.

It's like 0 mostly.

This is just religious fear mongering. Notice how Canadians are in support of this change, conservatives included. Because we all agree that anybody who speaks in favor of violence towards a group deserves jail time. They are simply adding gender identity to the list of things that can be applied to under the law.

I'd expect you all to have better critical thinking skills.

ETA: for those of you still confused, just stating you disagree with LGBT will NOT get you charged with a hate speech crime, stating you want them all killed or that others should kill them for you will.

Pretty simple right?

~Tenth

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posted on May, 26 2016 @ 05:41 AM
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Yes, I was reading an article about all the conditions that must be met before it's considered hate speech, including this exclusion:


Excluded from hate speech are good faith interpretations of religious doctrine, discussion of issues of public interest, and literary devices like sarcasm and irony;


www.theglobeandmail.com...

So, one is free to say that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an "abomination" (interpretation of religious doctrine), and one is free to speak their opinion that allowing transgender females into the women's room could let more predators in (issue of public interest). What one could NOT get away with saying is something like "gays and transgender people are freaks who should all be exterminated".

I noticed that no one here is complaining about the fact that someone in Canada is also not allowed similar hate speech against religious people, like Christians. Hmmmmm....


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posted on May, 26 2016 @ 05:43 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

This is what I'm getting at.

This law only provides the same protections that Christians have against hate speech towards them.

But oh no, don't look at the logic or anything, don't look at the actual facts, just read a flashy headline from some zealots and get all riled up.

Religious fear mongering 101.

~Tenth



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 05:46 AM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

You've fallen for the Canadian equivalent of Glenn Beck and his insistence that Christians are being persecuted.
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posted on May, 26 2016 @ 06:02 AM
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C'mon, folks...

This is aimed directly at hate speech that incites violence towards transsexuals. There's laws much the same here in the US, and elsewhere in the world.

So unless you're inciting violence towards you've nothing to fear.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: seagull

Fighting words. Not protected by the Constitution.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 06:38 AM
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How dare they trample my right to fire an employee when I find out they're transgender!


A survey conducted by Trans Pulse Project in 2010 showed that out of the almost 500 transgender respondents in Ontario, 20 per cent reported having been physically or sexually assaulted, though not all of them reported the assaults to police.
The respondent-driven sampling survey found 13 per cent reported being fired and 18 per cent refused a job because they were transgender.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 06:40 AM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
There are many things I do not understand about Canadian law and free speech. Obviously, the US has more liberty in that department.


It's pretty simple really. In Canada there is no free speech allowed, if it would offend a favored demographic.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 06:43 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: seagull

Fighting words. Not protected by the Constitution.


Offensive words are the most protect words by the Constitution.

Yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater which is not on fire is not a fighting word, it's a safety hazard.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 06:44 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Technically this is already posted

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 06:55 AM
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I've been making the Glenn Beck comparison since Mamabeths thread yesterday. Little did I know... glennbeck.com... LOL



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 06:56 AM
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a reply to: Teikiatsu

I'm sorry that you're ignorant about Fighting Words.



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