George Bush... How does he get away with it??????

This guy is a complete joker! The mediawhore foxnews.com has printed a story about GWB taking a pop at what he calls "Revisionists" or people looking back on the war and asking why it happened.

THE LINK TO FOXWHORE.COM

Where we not all asked to support the troops during the war and ask questions after? Even I agreed, but now it seems that GWB is changing his mind again.

And another thing...

Why is the BBC the only news network reporting the lack of evidence on the WMD in Iraq?

FOX NEWS FRONT PAGE

CNN FRONT PAGE

BBC NEWS FRONT PAGE (UK)

BBC NEWS FRONT PAGE (AMERICAS)

For after today, when the stories have changed, the point I'm making is that SOLDIERS DIE IN WAR, yet it makes the front page of American news when George Bush should be on the brink of impeachment!

HA!

My sarcastic, unkind, before-the-first-cuppa-coffee response is "because he's 'doing' the American public... not White House interns."

Actually, I did hear that same question raised on NPR this morning.

nobody has forgotten about the case for war being based around WMD, only problem is that your tv networks reported US forces "finding" dodgy tubes of chemicals so often that the case has been proven to most of America, they have seen the experts talk of the suspected deadly chemicals, they have heard about the US soldiers blistering up when they came into contact with a poisonous substance (which turned out to be pesticide), they have even seen the mobile biological weapons labs used to concoct deadly virus' (which turn out to be harmless weather baloon labs).
My point is that the American public think the case is proven, encouraged by certain aspects of the media. Of course the idea that any WMD were in Iraq looks laughable now, i am actually pretty surprised they didn't risk planting the weapons themselves.

One point that is worth raising. The top Iraqi defector, who exposed Saddam's biological programme the first time round, said (before he died) that Iraq was 100% free of WMD, this guy is the most respected defector, he is still mentioned today by politicians who use his original statement as evidence that Iraq was in breach, ignoring the fact that the man who presented the evidence has since told us all the weapons were destroyed.

I was for the war, because I was all for achieving the "real" objectives (which certainly had nothing to do with WMD...). I seriously can't believe that he got away with botching it so poorly. No wonder they did it the way they did...they must have known it would all come out this way, and they'd only have a little egg on their face. I expected the press to hang GW out to dry...but I guess they're even more contained than I ever dared to believe.... Pretty spooky really.....

What's even spookier, is that my money would be on this imbicile getting re-elected! Go figure! Jesus, I'd vote for Perot even, before voting for GW!

Originally posted by Byrd
My sarcastic, unkind, before-the-first-cuppa-coffee response is "because he's 'doing' the American public... not White House interns."

Actually, I did hear that same question raised on NPR this morning.

You'd better go ahead and have your cup of coffee and think back to the days when Bubba did more than just interns. You democrats are so fixated on sex that you think that's all it was about.

Clinton certainly was no angel...and no, I'm not talking sex. The Clintons are connected with more mysterious deaths, and dirty deeds than I care to count (I'd run out of digits).

But, as republican as I usually tend to be...I still think GW is a boob....

Originally posted by Peace
they have even seen the mobile biological weapons labs used to concoct deadly virus' (which turn out to be harmless weather baloon labs).

Now I have to wonder what the hell weather baloon labs were doing buried in the desert? I don't think we're getting the full story about whats been found and I can't figure out why. Bush and Blair are both taking a hell of alot of heat over this. I reserve judgement until I see the entire picture. Saddam might have been closer than anyone thinks and we might have goofed and let those weapons get out of there. In our blind rage to get Bush out of there, I'd hate to think we'd ignore the painfully obvious...or the guy in the mall with a ticking backpack.

because we the american people, are letting him. we are the only ones who can stop this bullshyt. why do we let him? he tells us how free and peaceful the world we live in is. ha! half of america doesn't know where the middle east was before the first gulf war. the fact of the matter is, if we want this to stop then we and only we, not france, not germany, not china or japan, have to do somethin about it. not walk around and mumble to ourselves.

Originally posted by astrocreep

Originally posted by Peace
they have even seen the mobile biological weapons labs used to concoct deadly virus' (which turn out to be harmless weather baloon labs).

Now I have to wonder what the hell weather baloon labs were doing buried in the desert? I don't think we're getting the full story about whats been found and I can't figure out why. Bush and Blair are both taking a hell of alot of heat over this. I reserve judgement until I see the entire picture. Saddam might have been closer than anyone thinks and we might have goofed and let those weapons get out of there. In our blind rage to get Bush out of there, I'd hate to think we'd ignore the painfully obvious...or the guy in the mall with a ticking backpack.

You don't understand, the weapons inspectors ridded Iraq of WMD, some of the inspection team even came out and said so (Scott Ritter). Iraq was stripped of all necessary components for developing weapons of mass destruction, that is why all the focus was on the stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons, and these were clearly non existant or they would have been found, anyone who thinks Saddam Hussein is driving around the middle east with 300, 000 litres of anthrax in the back of his jeep needs a reality check. The weapons were destroyed years ago.

Originally posted by Peace

Originally posted by astrocreep

Originally posted by Peace
they have even seen the mobile biological weapons labs used to concoct deadly virus' (which turn out to be harmless weather baloon labs).

Now I have to wonder what the hell weather baloon labs were doing buried in the desert? I don't think we're getting the full story about whats been found and I can't figure out why. Bush and Blair are both taking a hell of alot of heat over this. I reserve judgement until I see the entire picture. Saddam might have been closer than anyone thinks and we might have goofed and let those weapons get out of there. In our blind rage to get Bush out of there, I'd hate to think we'd ignore the painfully obvious...or the guy in the mall with a ticking backpack.

You don't understand, the weapons inspectors ridded Iraq of WMD, some of the inspection team even came out and said so (Scott Ritter). Iraq was stripped of all necessary components for developing weapons of mass destruction, that is why all the focus was on the stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons, and these were clearly non existant or they would have been found, anyone who thinks Saddam Hussein is driving around the middle east with 300, 000 litres of anthrax in the back of his jeep needs a reality check. The weapons were destroyed years ago.

"Chief inspector Hans Blix reported to Security Council members that Iraq had failed to account for 1,000 tons of chemical agent, 6,500 chemical bombs, 25,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard gas and VX nerve agent and 380 rocket engines useful in the delivery of biological and chemical agents."


www.worldnetdaily.com...


Oh its checked...make no mistake about that. Reality is my game, baby.



edit to add this little tidbit for those who have better things to do than chasing my links....

"While blasting Iraq today for not "genuinely" accepting disarmament and hinting that undeclared chemical warheads recently found in a bunker southwest of Baghdad may be the "tip of the submerged iceberg," the duo in charge of U.N. weapons inspections in Iraq asked for more time to do their work.

Reporting on the progress of the inspection process over the past 60 days, U.N. chief weapons inspector Hans Blix told members of the U.N. Security Council today that he was encouraged by Iraq's cooperation in providing access to inspectors.

But his praise was muted by a blistering summation of Iraq's overall cooperation.

"Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance, not even today, of the disarmament that was demanded of it," Blix declared.




[Edited on 17-6-2003 by astrocreep]

Originally posted by astrocreep

"Chief inspector Hans Blix reported to Security Council members that Iraq had failed to account for 1,000 tons of chemical agent, 6,500 chemical bombs, 25,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard gas and VX nerve agent and 380 rocket engines useful in the delivery of biological and chemical agents."


www.worldnetdaily.com...


Oh its checked...make no mistake about that. Reality is my game, baby.

All of that you're referring to was claimed destroyed by Iraq.

Originally posted by Total Enslavement

Originally posted by astrocreep

"Chief inspector Hans Blix reported to Security Council members that Iraq had failed to account for 1,000 tons of chemical agent, 6,500 chemical bombs, 25,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard gas and VX nerve agent and 380 rocket engines useful in the delivery of biological and chemical agents."


www.worldnetdaily.com...


Oh its checked...make no mistake about that. Reality is my game, baby.

All of that you're referring to was claimed destroyed by Iraq.

But with no proof...another stipulation of the first UN resolution. My point is, its just too early to close the book on the chance that these weapons are still out there. Haste makes waste and all that jazz. Are you in such a hurry to condemn Bush that you would back the word of someone like Saddam Hussien and are you willing to risk the ramifications on such a venture? Should we just stop looking and impeach Bush? Would you be willing to take a chance on these weapons being used just to gain some satisfaction politically? Its a big question, take your time.

he can't use them, won't be able to use them, and never again will be able to use them. he'll die tryin. i hope he falls on a piece of tank ammo. that;ll teach the hoe. andyway on a more serious note, i doubt there are 'stockpiles' of chembio weapons left. if there were in the first place. i think that the wound needs a new bandaid just to be sure. peace,

Becaue he has two very influensial secret societies running the side lines for him. Its utterly obvious he couldnt pull this off by himself. (Scull&Bones, Bohemian Club)

Originally posted by astrocreep
But with no proof...another stipulation of the first UN resolution. My point is, its just too early to close the book on the chance that these weapons are still out there. Haste makes waste and all that jazz. Are you in such a hurry to condemn Bush that you would back the word of someone like Saddam Hussien and are you willing to risk the ramifications on such a venture? Should we just stop looking and impeach Bush? Would you be willing to take a chance on these weapons being used just to gain some satisfaction politically? Its a big question, take your time.

No time to take. Honestly, I could care less whether Iraq had WMD or not. America sold Iraq WMD and supported Saddam. Honestly though, neither one of those things matter. What matters, Astro, is that this war had nothing to do with terror or WMD and that my friend is a fact. That's what matters. What matters is everyone was lied to.

If you don't believe you are being lied to all the time pay attention to everything that seems to be coming to surface.

Originally posted by astrocreep

"Chief inspector Hans Blix reported to Security Council members that Iraq had failed to account for 1,000 tons of chemical agent, 6,500 chemical bombs, 25,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard gas and VX nerve agent and 380 rocket engines useful in the delivery of biological and chemical agents."

It is not justified to jump to the conclusion that something exists just because it is unaccounted for, espically on the basis of war and peace

Fine then, lets impeach the guy, forget that they ever existed or pretend they didn't and don't now and hope it doesn't come back to bite us in the ass. Thats a great approach. Lets just act like it was never a problem and hope it goes away on its own. have you ever bothered to considered that the "lying" goes on with both sides of this? Did you ever stop to think that there might be a politcally selfish reason on both sides or are you so sure of your position that you think you have been "clued in" for purely unselfish reasons? I don't trust W but I sure the hell don't trust Hussein and thats what you have to do to justify the position you just presented. I've said it before that i could care less if he's impeached but whoever takes the helm, I don't want their heads in the sand while someone kicks them in the rear. You are making dangerous suppositions on the word of a mad man. I trust no one and neither should you. Its not worth a balcony view of a mushroom cloud to get my political jollies...is it yours?

Originally posted by astrocreep
Fine then, lets impeach the guy, forget that they ever existed or pretend they didn't and don't now and hope it doesn't come back to bite us in the ass. Thats a great approach. Lets just act like it was never a problem and hope it goes away on its own. have you ever bothered to considered that the "lying" goes on with both sides of this? Did you ever stop to think that there might be a politcally selfish reason on both sides or are you so sure of your position that you think you have been "clued in" for purely unselfish reasons? I don't trust W but I sure the hell don't trust Hussein and thats what you have to do to justify the position you just presented. I've said it before that i could care less if he's impeached but whoever takes the helm, I don't want their heads in the sand while someone kicks them in the rear. You are making dangerous suppositions on the word of a mad man. I trust no one and neither should you. Its not worth a balcony view of a mushroom cloud to get my political jollies...is it yours?

What's going on is bigger than America and bigger than Bush.

Originally posted by Killuminati

Originally posted by astrocreep

"Chief inspector Hans Blix reported to Security Council members that Iraq had failed to account for 1,000 tons of chemical agent, 6,500 chemical bombs, 25,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard gas and VX nerve agent and 380 rocket engines useful in the delivery of biological and chemical agents."

It is not justified to jump to the conclusion that something exists just because it is unaccounted for, espically on the basis of war and peace

It was the responsibility of Iraq to account for all these. We know they existed before and there was no proof of destruction and no account for where they are so if we assume one way or another in this, do we assume they didn't exist even though we saw them stockpiled and we saw them used and we were witness to their power merely on the word of the Iraqi information minister? I remind you of their truthfulness during the war. I say your reaching, really reaching for no more a justified reason than politics.

Originally posted by astrocreep

Originally posted by Killuminati

Originally posted by astrocreep

"Chief inspector Hans Blix reported to Security Council members that Iraq had failed to account for 1,000 tons of chemical agent, 6,500 chemical bombs, 25,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard gas and VX nerve agent and 380 rocket engines useful in the delivery of biological and chemical agents."

It is not justified to jump to the conclusion that something exists just because it is unaccounted for, espically on the basis of war and peace

It was the responsibility of Iraq to account for all these. We know they existed before and there was no proof of destruction and no account for where they are so if we assume one way or another in this, do we assume they didn't exist even though we saw them stockpiled and we saw them used and we were witness to their power merely on the word of the Iraqi information minister? I remind you of their truthfulness during the war. I say your reaching, really reaching for no more a justified reason than politics.

Iraq was going to show a report on destroyed anthrax....its a shame that we attacked before they could show this proof to us

Its not like it would of changed Bushes mind
HE WAS GOING TO ATTACK REGARDLESS OF ANYTHING