Researchers say some parts of the globe will become so hot they'll be uninhabitable

a reply to: snowspirit

Makes sense. Don't tell the Aussies though, they might start flocking to Canada once they realize everything in nature isn't actively trying to kill them.

'Only' 46 degrees during the day,isn't this winter in Furnace Creek in Death Valley,the hottest place on Earth?



(That's about 55 degrees!) That's 2 degrees below the world record,and they've also seen a ground temperature of something like 93 degrees!!!!!!!!

a reply to: lostbook

These assumptions are based on models if you read the paper.
So far all past climate models have failed, why would we believe this one?

a reply to: Imagewerx

And they don't tell you that the night temperatures on the same day drops to -0 degrees C.

originally posted by: elysiumfire
So what are we all doing? Just sitting back and let the whole thing unravel and come apart? Are we to constantly deny that there is a problem? Or rather, that there are issues around the globe that are extremely dangerous situations and not just down to religio-politico differences, but that parts of the planet are indeed experiencing extreme climate swings? The environment is a real issue now, and slapping a carbon tax on everyone is not going to change a damn thing, it's out of our hands now, climate changes have become runaway, and will only settle down on their own once the triggers have been removed, which is going to take many decades, and that is if we actually do anything.

What if it is just that people are doing something, that is, maybe they are questioning things more and more, and before they start getting out the knitting needles....that's better than the proverbial weeping and knashing of teeth, innit? The more people question, the more the hand me down science either modified, or even worse are the predictions.
Here's a look back at the scientific luridness since 1970,


“By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people … If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.” -Paul Ehrlich, Speech at British Institute For Biology, September 1971.

Some predictions for the next decade (1990’s) are not difficult to make… Americans may see the ’80s migration to the Sun Belt reverse as a global warming trend rekindles interest in cooler climates. -Dallas Morning News December 5th 1989

Giant sand dunes may turn Plains to desert – Huge sand dunes extending east from Colorado’s Front Range may be on the verge of breaking through the thin topsoil, transforming America’s rolling High Plains into a desert, new research suggests. The giant sand dunes discovered in NASA satellite photos are expected to re- emerge over the next 20 to 50 years, depending on how fast average temperatures rise from the suspected “greenhouse effect,” scientists believe. -Denver Post April 18, 1990

I kept the sample very short. BTW I do recall that back in 1995, a Max Planck climate report says they were busting their asses to get a decent fingerprint for AGW for their projections, and that they might have just got it with a new 'modelling' set up, to add to their 'modelling' setup. Not a good time to start then, since that's around the time that 'global warming' decided to take a break up to the present.

I guess then, that they all use their crystal 'balls' now for a consensus.

So, the barren desert wastelands will become uninhabitable?

Isn't that something.

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: lostbook

I say that time will tell. It's not the first time "experts" say that Earth will become uninhabitable if we don't pay carbon taxes.

No reasons to continue polluting though.

Most of us who have a grasp on AGW science realize carbon taxes are not a great solution.

It seems like those who profit off fossil fuels want the common American idiot to dismiss the concept of AGW by associating it with something everyone hates, more taxes.

originally posted by: intergalactic fire
a reply to: Imagewerx

And they don't tell you that the night temperatures on the same day drops to -0 degrees C.

Not in the summer it doesn't.I stayed at Panamint Springs in June and it was still in the low 30s at midnight.

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: lostbook

I say that time will tell. It's not the first time "experts" say that Earth will become uninhabitable if we don't pay carbon taxes.

No reasons to continue polluting though.

Most of us who have a grasp on AGW science realize carbon taxes are not a great solution.
.

Well it's not that difficult to understand AGW, if we have to believe the headlines.
Humans = Global Warming

a reply to: intergalactic fire

That is a fallacy that your crowd likes to repeat. The models have not failed. Please quit spewing BS on a site that is supposed to deny ignorance.

When the National Hurricane Center issues a Hurricane Warning will you ignore that warning because they and the models they use have been wrong?

a reply to: jrod

Well isn't that fun, jumping from one thread to another. It's almost like a group skype conversation or something like that

First I didn't knew I had a crowd, but that's a good thing to know, thank you now I have to find a way to shake off these leeches.
Deny ignorance? Who is believing blindingly what the media drops out of their behind?

When the National Hurricane Center issues a Hurricane Warning will you ignore that warning because they and the models they use have been wrong?

Sorry I fail to see the logic in that. I don't base my life on models. At least I'm not trying to.

Apart from the models, there is very little to no connection between GHG, AGW and a rise in hurricanes in frequency and intensity.
If you are interested i can link you to the science papers

a reply to: smurfy

“By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people … If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.” -Paul Ehrlich, Speech at British Institute For Biology, September 1971.

This guy made several absurd claims which all turned out to be bogus.
I hope he got rich on his famous book though.

Getting really tired of this global warming bull#....

#1 its natural, man contributes, but to a small degree in the overall scale.

#2 they found another way to steal your money.

#3 there is nothing you can do anyways, you cant stop it, nature is in control and will be in control long after we're extinct.

#4 you're welcone

a reply to: intergalactic fire

I studied Meteorology...so please kindly tell me how I am blindly following what the media tells me?

Furthermore I don't watch tv, haven't for years. I pretty much live off the grid.

Show me the link, but I can guarantee you the North Atlantic has been much more active now than it has ever been in recorded history.

a reply to: RustyNailer

1. Your claims are BS#!

Please back up your claims....but most of us know you cannot.

a reply to: jrod

Here are some links you asked
sciencepolicy.colorado.edu...

www.columbia.edu...

texmex.mit.edu...

www.fraserinstitute.org...

As a meteorologist you might also be interested in these,
Regarding the connection between tropical cyclones and magnetic storms. (don't have access to the actual paper though)
link.springer.com...

Spaceweather and hurricane activity:
cdn.intechopen.com...

originally posted by: intergalactic fire
a reply to: smurfy

“By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people … If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.” -Paul Ehrlich, Speech at British Institute For Biology, September 1971.

This guy made several absurd claims which all turned out to be bogus.
I hope he got rich on his famous book though.

Don't want to even think about remembering all his other claims, yuh hurting my head they were so ridiculous. He's still at it, still on about his pet thing of over population since 1968, for us in Europe, we should have been eating one another..shucks, about twenty years ago, and what about that happened in between? war, and more war...did Bush the elder take him seriously, and maybe even the Bush baby, with more war, frankly they are the best candidates thus far, to have tried to turn North Africa into a population desert at least.

BTW, by the looks of that picture of the visitor centre temperature guage someone 'kindly' posted, I'm not sure that would pass muster as to it's siting, maybe they have changed it by now to something newer, or older, or....

Nearly forgot, a famous counter to Ehrlich's book in 1971,

a reply to: lostbook

MORE DOOM PORN!!!!

Climate Scientists, are in the business of creating business for themselves. If they came out and said "Nothing going on here, move on" they would be UNEMPLOYED.

It's like asking the pest control guy if I have bugs around my house.

"Of COURSE, here, let me spray that for you. $100 please".

According to Al Gore, I should be 10 feet under water by now.

some ME and NAfrica countries still use communal grazing and in general practice much poorer agriculture practices like monocropping than other areas in the world. Combine that with an increasing population that is pushing out into harder areas to farm. Yup desertification will happen.

a reply to: smurfy

Right on the money i believe from yoko and john, especially the yoko part.
When welfare goes up, population goes down.
It's scare tactics, ow we are running out of food and water. There simply isn't enough to feed the poor.
Don't believe it, reorganization of distribution that's the problem.