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originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
...and yet he is 300 delegates ahead. It's actually amazing what he has achieved. From 17 candidates he is the only one left who can get to 1237 delegates, having not run for office before. The charge he doesn't know what he is doing is somewhat hollow and I have to say, over emotional.
The fact that he is ahead is irrelevant to the point at hand. He did not know what he was doing in Colorado and paid the price for it. Cruz is correct in that aspect.
I think I would agree that he does not not know enough about the delegate process in states where all the people don't get the opportunity to vote for a candidate, but that is a different charge and plays less to the general emotional outbust of 'he doesn't know what he is doing'.
So you admit he doesn't know what he was doing, yet try to refute the claim that he didn't know what he was doing.
Those kind of childish outbursts have been very much a feature of Cruz's campaign recently. He cant seem to let go of his anger.
Sure. I'm not sure what this adds to the conversation, other than to make yourself feel better about Trump's proven ignorance. I suppose it's easier to attack Cruz than it is to come to terms with reality.
You seem unable to separate not knowing about the Colorado process with a more general statement about 'not knowing what he is doing'
Why is that? It sounds like you are being over emotional and letting your hate cloud logical thinking. You have a track record of that.
People are not totally stupid.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
...and yet he is 300 delegates ahead. It's actually amazing what he has achieved. From 17 candidates he is the only one left who can get to 1237 delegates, having not run for office before. The charge he doesn't know what he is doing is somewhat hollow and I have to say, over emotional.
The fact that he is ahead is irrelevant to the point at hand. He did not know what he was doing in Colorado and paid the price for it. Cruz is correct in that aspect.
I think I would agree that he does not not know enough about the delegate process in states where all the people don't get the opportunity to vote for a candidate, but that is a different charge and plays less to the general emotional outbust of 'he doesn't know what he is doing'.
So you admit he doesn't know what he was doing, yet try to refute the claim that he didn't know what he was doing.
Those kind of childish outbursts have been very much a feature of Cruz's campaign recently. He cant seem to let go of his anger.
Sure. I'm not sure what this adds to the conversation, other than to make yourself feel better about Trump's proven ignorance. I suppose it's easier to attack Cruz than it is to come to terms with reality.
You seem unable to separate not knowing about the Colorado process with a more general statement about 'not knowing what he is doing'
Why is that? It sounds like you are being over emotional and letting your hate cloud logical thinking. You have a track record of that.
C'mon, UK. You can do better than that. I expect you to at least try. If one is unable to adequately debate their position without ad hominem attacks, it is reasonable to conclude an emotional connection to the topic at hand exists. That would explain your deflection.
Care to address the topic at hand, in which you have already conceded Trump's ignorance, or will you continue to deflect with personal attacks?
My posts adequately address the topic at hand.
I am pleased you seem to now be changing your statement of 'Trump doesn't know what he is doing' with 'Trump did not know know what he was doing in Colorado'.
It shows some maturity that you are able to learn from others and adjust your thinking, so kudos for that and I am genuinely glad I helped you.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
My posts adequately address the topic at hand.
So from your posts we learn that Trump didn't know what he was doing, but that doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's doing.
Check.
I am pleased you seem to now be changing your statement of 'Trump doesn't know what he is doing' with 'Trump did not know know what he was doing in Colorado'.
I've said nothing of the sort. You wouldn't be making things up, now would you?
It shows some maturity that you are able to learn from others and adjust your thinking, so kudos for that and I am genuinely glad I helped you.
The only thing more noticeable than your inability to logically debate without deflection is your arrogance. You may want to have that checked out. Arrogance is a killer.
Do you not find it reasonable to say that Trump didn't know enough about the Colorado process, but overall knows what he is doing in this election? Is that hard to comprehend?
Why do you have to be so black and white.. it's a sign of letting your emotions run your thought process.
You did indeed evolve into being specific about Colorado, after your initial emotional statements. No need to be defensive about that. Its a good thing to evolve and learn.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
Do you not find it reasonable to say that Trump didn't know enough about the Colorado process, but overall knows what he is doing in this election? Is that hard to comprehend?
No, it's not hard to comprehend, but that does not mean it is true.
Why do you have to be so black and white.. it's a sign of letting your emotions run your thought process.
Emotion-filled statements would be a sign of letting emotions run the thought process. None of my statements have been emotional in nature. That tactic and argument is what you use in an attempt to invoke emotional responses. It's rather disingenuous and exhausting. A tactic of the pigeon, if you will.
You did indeed evolve into being specific about Colorado, after your initial emotional statements. No need to be defensive about that. Its a good thing to evolve and learn.
Colorado is an example in which one could make the case that Cruz was correct in his assertion. Does that mean Trump has absolutely no clue what he is doing? No. But it does mean that Cruz's comments were not completely unfounded.
Do you think Trump knows what he is doing in the campaign overall, or not? Your initial statement suggested you thought not, but seems to now be more focused on Colorado. Were you just talking specifically about a particular are of the overall campaign before?
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
Do you think Trump knows what he is doing in the campaign overall, or not? Your initial statement suggested you thought not, but seems to now be more focused on Colorado. Were you just talking specifically about a particular are of the overall campaign before?
My opinion does not matter. As I said before, we have evidence of Trump's ignorance and it is not therefore unreasonable to say that Cruz's comments were not unfounded.
Lots of emotional responses here. Whether you like Cruz or not, all you have to do is look at Colorado to see that his assertion is correct. Trump did not/does not know what he is doing.
You have already given your opinion. You said Trump does not what he is doing.
. Whether you like Cruz or not, all you have to do is look at Colorado to see that his assertion is correct. Trump did not/does not know what he is doing.
You used Colorado, but its not clear whether you are only talking about that instance or whether you share Cruz's more general view.
Given Colorado has passed your statement that Trump does not know what he is doing would seem to be a more general and overly emotional statement (like Cruz's), which is why I disagree with you.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
You have already given your opinion. You said Trump does not what he is doing.
No I did not. Read it again.
. Whether you like Cruz or not, all you have to do is look at Colorado to see that his assertion is correct. Trump did not/does not know what he is doing.
That was Cruz's assertion.
You used Colorado, but its not clear whether you are only talking about that instance or whether you share Cruz's more general view.
My personal view is irrelevant.
Given Colorado has passed your statement that Trump does not know what he is doing would seem to be a more general and overly emotional statement (like Cruz's), which is why I disagree with you.
Did Trump drop the ball in Colorado? Yes. Apparently he did not know what the hell was going on. You have admitted as much. Therefore Colorado serves as precedent for someone like Cruz to make the statement he did, without it being unfounded. It's actually that simple.
I know you are trying to inject the "emotion" aspect to draw attention from Trump and place it on either Cruz or myself, but it really has no place in this debate. It's a red herring, if you will. A logical fallacy.
originally posted by: UMayBRite!
a reply to: Profusion
And Cruz knows what he's doing?
Does he know his blind ambition will likely destroy the Republican party?
If he does know, he needs to learn too campaign from jail.