TERRIBLE quality photo, wondering what this helicopter is

a reply to: Sammamishman

I hope you get 'em. I need to go buy a charger for my Nikon

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

If they're Apaches it's the gun. Anything else it's a refueling probe.

Pretty sure they're Apaches, but now you've got me questioning myself. Gonna have to take a few pictures next time I see them. That would make sense, I suppose, given that they're always headed to/from the direction of the armory.

I'll never forget the time I watched two Apaches do laps around a mountain alternating hellfire missile and 30mm cannon fire. Quite a impressive show of force, needless to say the Taliban stayed in their caves that day while we ate steak and lobster.

a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

Ended up watching a documentary on them last night, super badass. They were saying taliban would hole up in their caves if they knew they were around.

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: projectvxn

Lynnwood WA. It didn't look like it was armed, but I don't know what I'm talking about.

In your neck of the woods there is a Boeing plant that builds these.

This might be a test flight for the newer block 3 aircraft.

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

Ended up watching a documentary on them last night, super badass. They were saying taliban would hole up in their caves if they knew they were around.

Apaches escorted many of my missions while I was a Blackhawk crew chief. They still shot at us though.

a reply to: projectvxn

The Apache is built in Mesa, AZ. The facility up there is the Everett plant. They only do commercial work with the exception of the KC-46's and the P-8's which are based off of commercial airliners.

Doesnt deserve a thread but I saw 4 modern millitary aircraft flying at low level in a 2 by 2 formation off the coast of the UK (east coast) 2 days ago that all had dual canted vertical stabilisers.
Visibility was poor so the only thing myself and the other witnesses could agree on was the dual, canted vertical tails.

My initial thought was F22/F35 but never having seen either of them over the UK before I thought maybe F18's??

Nothing on flight radar ( except a clear corridor) so anybody have any thoughts on likely suspects??

a reply to: Jukiodone









currently the F22's are at lakenheath

a reply to: yittak

Thanks for the quick response - I shouted F22's whilst dancing around and waving my hands in the air however thought it too unlikely to see 4 at once in the UK.

If they are in the UK currently -I'd be suprised if they werent f22's so I'l take your confirmation and be happy.

a reply to: Jukiodone

They're there through the end of the month while they move around to various exercises.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I was looking up an article because I´ve read they´re going to be deployed to the EU, that´s why I reply to you, although, the post is not adressed directly to you.

While reading this:

"We'll get the F-22 into facilities that we would potentially use in a conflict in Europe," Air Force chief of staff says

My first thought was this -don´t get me wrong-
What the # are those people thinking? That the world belongs to them??
Rant over.

Edit: Forgot to add the link in the heat of the moment.

air-force-f-22-europe

a reply to: verschickter

The F-22 is currently the most advanced fighter in the world. No one knows how to work with them and what they can do until they work with them and learn by training with them. The only way to do that is for them to physically be present and work with them.

They also have to learn what the physical support requirements are and where they can work and what they need in case they do have to be used.

a reply to: Zaphod58
I understand they have to train the people on it and their allies to work with them.
My point was

"We'll get the F-22 into facilities that we would potentially use in a conflict in Europe, things like the bases where we do aviation attachments, to places where we do air-policing missions," Welsh said.

Who says you are allowed to use them in a conflict in Europe. It sounds like they/he does not even think about the possibility the world is fed up with all the US bases everywhere and the US fingering around in foreign politics.

But thank you for the post, I think I´m getting too offtopic now.

a reply to: verschickter

So we're supposed to support our allies, but we're only allowed to use what's acceptable, or what's already in Europe? Seriously? The bases are already there and already in use. Or are we supposed to just throw our allies under the bus?

a reply to: Zaphod58
Would have answered earlier but had to go to physio for half an hour.

I also can understand your reasoning but that´s not what I said.
Please don´t put words in my mouth. I know you as a reasonable person, don´t start such things now.

My "Who says you are allowed..." was not pointed towards you by the way, if you thought that.

I´m not supposing the USA(gov) to support Germany. In fact, we do pretty good without. The problem is, at least I, am fed up with the bull# coming from the US government when it comes to patents and gaining back our status as a independent republic (and even maybe without foreign bases). I know at least ten US bases that are not far away from where I live, all not further away than 100km and if you don´t believe me that, I can point them out on a map.

There are 35+ US bases in Germany.
Statistically, you will hit one base every 101km in each direction.

(357.168 sq km / 35) * square root2


Don´t get me wrong, I´m fed up with politics, not with the people of USA, or the people working for the US military.

Edit: We can argue per U2U, because offtopic (yes, I started with it)
And don´t get me started on getting back OUR gold from the government of USA...
It´s like they hold it hostage with their behavior and actings.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: verschickter

The F-22 is currently the most advanced fighter in the world.

Its a magnificent machine alright.

I actually cant believe I saw 4.
The chances of being randomly in the right time and place on their first day of deployment in country must be ridiculously low.

Did have phone with decent camera with me but was in state of

Whaaaa?
is that a .....
nooooo it cant be .....
well it looks like one.....
oh fuggudy fug it could be
do silly dance whilst pointing and incredulously shouting " are they EFFTWENTYTOOOOOsss" as loud as I could

Come back all people who didnt take a pic of a UFO; all is forgiven.
I was too busy processing the 15 second spectacle to rummage in my pocket, unlock using a swipe code etc and that was just a plane-spotting.

a reply to: Sammamishman

Interesting. I thought they built them in Washington.

a reply to: projectvxn

I wish they did. I'd be camping out up there all the time.

a reply to: Sammamishman

I miss the days I would see fresh Raptors leaving Dobbins in Marietta every morning. I used to walk outside for a smoke in the mornings when they lifted the flight restrictions to see them leave.