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Proof Blavatsky was a Freemason

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posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 08:33 AM
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www.freemasonrywatch.org...

There are women Freemasons, there have always been.

Mystery Babylon.

Why posting url's is preferrable to posting a half dozen paragraphs is beyond me, but that is the extent of debate I have witnessed being meeted out by Masons to those who question their memorized mantra's. Usually their only interest is identifying the "anti" and then filing lieing complaints about "harrassment" and "threats".

There is no debating Freemasons, there is only exposing and exorcising.



Oh and by the way Hitler kept Blavatsky's books on his bedside table. Not surprising really since the Thule Society was founded by Freemasons. Oh and Brothers - "Regular" Freemasonry in Germany was virulently Anti-Semitic, Jews were forbidden from joining, the only Lodges destroyed by National Socialism were the "Clandestine", "Irregular" bodies which allowed Jews to join.

How does someone tell when a Freemason is lying? See if their lips, or fingers, are moving.




posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 08:36 AM
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I never had the desire to join the Masons my whole life, but reading the vile crap that is being sprayed here makes me consider is more and more.
The Ladies of the Eastern Star is the fraternity of Mason's wives, Demolay is the sons, and Job's Daughters is the daughters, and none of it has zip to do with the devil.



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 08:40 AM
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And Freemasonry is his Synagogue. All of Freemasonry is Satanic because it comes from and leads to the Devil and the Demons. All of it.

All of it.



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 08:45 AM
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The devil is a cowardly loser, and I dare him to come see me. I have many Masons in my family history, and the ones I met are good folk.
The devil would not have been anywhere near them. The shriners are another altruistic masonic group. Is that just a cover? I dont buy it.



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Travelling Gentleman
And Freemasonry is his Synagogue. All of Freemasonry is Satanic because it comes from and leads to the Devil and the Demons. All of it.

All of it.



really??? this is kind of new to me so i question in a non-threatening manner..........

can you tell me specifically what there is that is satanic about them?

making them a "secret societial organization" doesn't make them satanic.
i've seen several masons post out here that pledging an oath to god was part of their initiation rites..........

can you give specifics please..........proof............not some internet rants but actual information that shows they are satanic worshippers........

thanks
angie



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 08:53 AM
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I would imagine there are good and bad masons just like any other group, but all the ones I have met are nice people, and normal, mostly Christians.
Some are likely not so nice, but then is there a group that is free of bad people? I doubt it. They were secretive in the beginning due to being persecuted and hunted, with their demise the goal of their hunters.



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 08:57 AM
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BG............that was what i was thinking too.

there is NO group secret or open that isn't free of its bad apples.......but it seems that over and over you hear negative things about freemasons,shriners and whatever else you want to call them.......

i would just like to get some straight up information on it.


angie



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 09:00 AM
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freemasonry.org...

www.masonicmatters.org...

scottishritemasons-can.org...

Here are some sources of information you might find useful.



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 09:02 AM
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thanks BG

i'll go ck them out.



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by Travelling Gentleman
www.freemasonrywatch.org...

There are women Freemasons, there have always been.


It is impossible, you have to be male, you know have a penis and all that.

Mystery Babylon.


Why posting url's is preferrable to posting a half dozen paragraphs is beyond me, but that is the extent of debate I have witnessed being meeted out by Masons to those who question their memorized mantra's.


That is because it is etiquette. The people who run the boards ask you to quote urls to the articles you use rather than take up bandwidth by cut and pasting. It also negates the possibilty of copyright.


Usually their only interest is identifying the "anti" and then filing lieing complaints about "harrassment" and "threats".


I can only see you flinging lies at the moment, with quotes from a completely one sided biased site that is so choked up with mis-informed articles, and claims of absolute truths it wouldn't know freemasonry if is wasn't written in abc simplicity and recited to them by a topless pole dancer.



There is no debating Freemasons, there is only exposing and exorcising.


I am not a mason, I have not gone through the 3 degrees and I do not wear the apron of a master mason, but I know you do not know what you are talking about.


Oh and by the way Hitler kept Blavatsky's books on his bedside table.


He also killed all known freemasons he could get his hands on. have you actuall read any other thread on this board.


Oh and Brothers - "Regular" Freemasonry in Germany was virulently Anti-Semitic, Jews were forbidden from joining, the only Lodges destroyed by National Socialism were the "Clandestine", "Irregular" bodies which allowed Jews to join.


What is regular freemasonry, and where is you proof. And please don't quote that pathetic site you keep referring to. Try an non-biased, informative, site for a change.


How does someone tell when a Freemason is lying? See if their lips, or fingers, are moving.


How can you tell if a person is of an IQ of under 60, he keeps posting the same thing over and over again with a singular source of information that has been proven to be false and completed biased towards and singular persons view. And then claims it a prove.



[edit on 12/1/2005 by Bondi]



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 11:49 AM
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edited double post

[edit on 12-1-2005 by stalkingwolf]



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 11:51 AM
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The Ladies of the Eastern Star is the fraternity of Mason's wives, Demolay is the sons, and Job's Daughters is the daughters.


not exactly right but close. ES can be any female relative of a mason, Daughter,
neice,Grand Daughter, etc. . Same for Jobs. Demolay same rule for Male decendents . at least as i recall the rules.

amb , do a search here for poster masonic light. He is IMO if not the, one of the
most knowledgeable posters here on Masonry.



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Travelling Gentleman
And Freemasonry is his Synagogue. All of Freemasonry is Satanic because it comes from and leads to the Devil and the Demons. All of it.

All of it.


Wow, buddy.

You've got someone who isn't a Mason, has never known a Mason, and couldn't join the Masons if she wanted to thinking you're being a big poopiehead about Masons here.

Give it a rest, dude. You're not helping your "cause" -- whatever it is -- by being rude and trollish.



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Travelling Gentleman
There are women Freemasons, there have always been.


There has never been a single female member of regular Freemasonry. That's because regular Masonry is a fraternity, not a sorority. And Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (a writer I greatly admire) never claimed to have been a Mason.

Concerning your link to "Freemasonry Watch", we don't waste time debating such nonsense, we only expose them.


Oh and by the way Hitler kept Blavatsky's books on his bedside table. Not surprising really since the Thule Society was founded by Freemasons. Oh and Brothers - "Regular" Freemasonry in Germany was virulently Anti-Semitic, Jews were forbidden from joining, the only Lodges destroyed by National Socialism were the "Clandestine", "Irregular" bodies which allowed Jews to join.


Wrong again, Pancho.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


How does someone tell when Travelling Gentleman is lying? See if their lips, or fingers, are moving.


Couldn't have said it better myself. Nice try, though.

Not!



[edit on 12-1-2005 by Masonic Light]



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 12:36 PM
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I am sensing some products of our current education system in this "room".

So Official Masonic Websites that publish the most atrocious disinformation, libel, and hate are "non-biased", but sites that criticize Freemasonry are?

This isn't a game kiddies, Freemasonry's critics have a habit of turning up dead.

If you are under 21 you shouldn't be posting about this subject matter.

Once we have ridden the Masons from this board, which we will shortly, it will safe for you to return. Freemasonry is a dangerous cult. It is demonology.



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Travelling Gentleman
Once we have ridden the Masons from this board, which we will shortly, it will safe for you to return. Freemasonry is a dangerous cult. It is demonology.


You may want to be careful mate, check out the T&C, that you agreed to:

1.) You will not post any material that is knowingly false, misleading, or inaccurate.

2.) You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.

I suggest you read the full page.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Travelling Gentleman
Once we have ridden the Masons from this board, which we will shortly, it will safe for you to return. Freemasonry is a dangerous cult. It is demonology.


If your entire goal here is to determine who can and cannot post on ATS, we are more than happy to show you the door.
You do not determine the membership of this forum, nor will you attempt to do so.

Got it?



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by Travelling Gentleman
This isn't a game kiddies, Freemasonry's critics have a habit of turning up dead.
...
Once we have ridden the Masons from this board, which we will shortly, it will safe for you to return. Freemasonry is a dangerous cult. It is demonology.


This guy's almost as bad as a recently banned member of these boards... one who blamed Freemasonry for nuclear weapons because geometry is a part of nuclear physics. These guys amuse me.



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 02:34 PM
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Did you know Moderators that the very individuals who are posting here at the moment have been going around the internet for the past three years spamming and shutting down any board or website which contains articles that it does not like? Yes, these very posters. It is not an accident that so many masons are on this board at the present time, they are all affiliated with the group M.A.S.O.N. and others.

Why give them this forum to conduct their recruitment campaigns free from criticism?

I start a thread on Freemasonry and the Nazi's and it is shut down after a Mason points a link to a thread where "we already discussed this". Yah right, discussed it.

I know these men, they are the worst group of masons on the net at the moment, far worse than the alt.freemasonry or aol crowd, and that is saying something.

They will get control of this board area, obtain i.s.p. info and use that to obtain personal information. If by chance critics of freemasonry started to get the upper hand they will shut down above top secret completely with false complaints to isp providers and massive spam and denial of service attacks.





[edit on 12-1-2005 by Travelling Gentleman]



posted on Jan, 12 2005 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Travelling Gentleman
Did you know Moderators that the very individuals who are posting here at the moment have been going around the internet for the past three years spamming and shutting down any board or website which contains articles that it does not like?


No I haven't and I take that as a slanderous accusation against my character. If you can prove I have done any such thing I will gladly never post here again. If not, then don;t make bulk accusations about people who disagree with you.


Yes, these very posters. It is not an accident that so many masons are on this board at the present time, they are all affiliated with the group M.A.S.O.N. and others.


It has already been pointed out, by me and others who are not Master Masons that you are in error and out of order.


Why give them this forum to conduct their recruitment campaigns free from criticism?


No one has recruited anyone, please show me the recruitment thread.


I start a thread on Freemasonry and the Nazi's and it is shut down after a Mason points a link to a thread where "we already discussed this". Yah right, discussed it.


Did you bother to read the thread. Is it classed as not discussed because it was not in agreement with your opinion.


I know these men, they are the worst group of masons on the net at the moment, far worse than the alt.freemasonry or aol crowd, and that is saying something.


Probably find they are the same. There is only a small few who defend freemsonry on the web, and like the anti's tend to frequent the same boards.


They will get control of this board area, obtain i.s.p. info and start and start filing false complaints against the critics.


Like you have done in this very post, false complaints and accusation are part of your arsenal.



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