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UK Referendum 23 June 2016 - Will it be an EU BREXIT or Not?

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posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: eletheia



Officials and politicians have said several EU initiatives have been put on ice, or pushed off the agenda in an effort to avoid stirring up controversy before the British referendum on June 23rd.


I read this morning the EU has also put on hold the banning of other high-powered domesticated appliances. Says it all really.




posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: Morrad



I read this morning the EU has also put on hold the banning of other high-powered domesticated appliances. Says it all really.


Yes I mentioned it in another post... I believe that it was a new type of fast

boiling kettle. Just something else to p1$$ me off ....

I bought a new high power hair dryer and vaccume cleaner before they

discontinued the higher power ones LOL!!...but those bloody light bulbs

are a nightmare. Wonder what else they have in store for us ....

We need to be OUT now


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posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 05:47 PM
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Dont get me started on the bloody light bulbs. Forget the economy, sovereignity, immigration I am voting leave becausr I want my 100 watt light bulbs back NOW! Its bad enough living in the North of England with our constant grey skies but now because of the meddling EU we cant even have bright artificial light. Its a deal breaker for me. Vote Leave to bring back the light! LOLa reply to: eletheia



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 01:06 AM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
Dont get me started on the bloody light bulbs. Forget the economy, sovereignity, immigration I am voting leave becausr I want my 100 watt light bulbs back NOW! Its bad enough living in the North of England with our constant grey skies but now because of the meddling EU we cant even have bright artificial light. Its a deal breaker for me. Vote Leave to bring back the light! LOLa reply to: eletheia

Talking of light. Some needs to be shone on the REMAIN campaign and EU's antics so that the UK voters can see what they are up to!
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posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 03:47 AM
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It is appalling the lengths REMAIN are going to with Project Fear. Rolls Royce threatening jobs, France threatening to move borders AND entice bankers to France should we Leave. I only hope this has the opposite effect and makes British people more determined to Leave, it does me, it just shows what France really think of us. They are talking like a vengeful ex partner if you leave I will do X, Y and Z in other words bribery!

Hopefully , REMAIN will run out of steam there are only so many threats they can come up with. LEAVE need to up their rhetoric because they are being put in the background at the moment a d people who really want to LEAVE need to get behind campaign and start helping with canvassing, it wont be won behind a keyboard.a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 03:59 AM
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a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

*STOP PRESS*

Now the Swiss withdraw their long standing bid to join the EU.

Lukas Reimann of the Swiss Peoples Party argued "It was high

time to make the move."

Talks are said to be on hold until after Britain's referendum on

June 23rd.



www.pressreader.com...


So come on UK lets be a leader....like we once were, instead

of a blind follower


The link is from PressLeader so may not be clear as originally
taken from the political column of the Daily Mail


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posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 04:14 AM
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Thats great news the LEAVE campaign should use this for all its worth like you have said say we can lead by example like we once did!a reply to: eletheia



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 04:21 AM
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I think I might book into a hotel for the night on 23 June and although I dont normally drink any more have a few drinks as there is no way I will be able to sleep. I wonder when the results will start coming in. Will it be in areas like GE? I am also going to have a bottle of champagne on hold just in case.a reply to: eletheia




posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 04:34 AM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens


France threatening to move borders AND entice bankers to France should we Leave.



Now this intrigues me .... There are 12plus miles of water between UK and

France so unless they all swim over they have to take some sort of 'water

transport' or through the tunnel.

In both areas we can have as strict as we want 'border controls'

and passports for anyone wanting to enter UK. So we can return any migrants

from Calais or any where else??


I say seal up the tunnel LOL!! never liked the idea of it anyway,

always thought it could be a terrorist target. If God wanted us to be French

he wouldn't have separated us by a channel of water!!!



Whilst reading for my previous post I discovered that the Swiss like London for

their banking!!

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posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 04:39 AM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
It is appalling the lengths REMAIN are going to with Project Fear. Rolls Royce threatening jobs, France threatening to move borders AND entice bankers to France should we Leave. I only hope this has the opposite effect and makes British people more determined to Leave, it does me, it just shows what France really think of us. They are talking like a vengeful ex partner if you leave I will do X, Y and Z in other words bribery!

Hopefully , REMAIN will run out of steam there are only so many threats they can come up with. LEAVE need to up their rhetoric because they are being put in the background at the moment a d people who really want to LEAVE need to get behind campaign and start helping with canvassing, it wont be won behind a keyboard.a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

They have a short memory because if it wasn't for the UK, France would be called GermanyPart2 now.
Ungrateful.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 04:54 AM
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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite



They have a short memory because if it wasn't for the UK, France would be called GermanyPart2 now.
Ungrateful.




They are joined at the hip now!!




posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 06:52 AM
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originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite



They have a short memory because if it wasn't for the UK, France would be called GermanyPart2 now.
Ungrateful.




They are joined at the hip now!!

In fact Holande is probably humping Mertel at the G meetings.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 08:25 AM
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Vote LEAVE Campaign Message

Let's take back control. Our money, our priorities. Europe yes, EU no.

Imagine if we Vote Leave… Wages will rise [as the chairman of the pro-EU BSE campaign admitted yesterday.]

The IN campaign have only one tactic during this referendum: Project Fear. They can find nothing positive to say about our membership of the EU. They know that the PM’s hollow renegotiation has flopped, so they are trying to scare people into voting to stay in the EU. However, the British public will see through this. They know that the safer option is to take back control and Vote Leave.

Remember – Saturday 12 March is #TakeControlDay. There are HUNDREDS of events being planned across the country, so please keep the date free.

MPs slam BSE campaign

The BSE [Britain Stronger in Europe] campaign was found out yesterday for using ‘dishonest’ figures, selective quotations and ludicrous claims about trade and jobs. Appearing before a committee of MPs, Lord Rose and Will Straw, chairman and chief executive of BSE, admitted that many of the key statistics used in their campaign are not based on facts.

Lord Rose stood by the widely discredited claim that every household in the UK benefits by £3,000 per year through EU membership. This was despite Andrew Tyrie MP, chairman of the committee, calling the figure ‘scandalous’ and ‘intellectually dishonest’. He then went on to admit that wages for low-skilled workers would rise if we Vote Leave, before adding that it isn’t 'necessarily a good thing'.

Will Straw blew a hole in their core campaign message by acknowledging that ‘all the trading would go on’ after we leave the EU, and that the claims of an £11 billion rise in prices were ‘entirely speculative’. Crucially, he admitted that the renegotiation would do nothing to change the powers of the EU courts.

The British people will realise that Project Fear is not based on hard facts. The safe option is to Vote Leave and spend our money on our priorities.



Business opinion split on EU

Priti Patel, one of the Cabinet ministers backing Vote Leave, has written in the Times today shedding light on how business opinion on the EU has been misrepresented for years. Big business lobby groups such as the CBI called on the UK to join the disastrous European Exchange Rate Mechanism, urged the government to scrap the pound, and are now backing the UK to stay in the EU. They were wrong then and they are wrong now.

Large multinationals can afford expensive lobbyists to shape the rules in their favour and to crush competition. But the EU doesn’t work for entrepreneurs and small businesses. They are suffocated by EU rules, and their innovative and disruptive business models are rejected to preserve the dominance of large corporates.

Leaving the EU is not a leap into the dark, it is a leap from a sinking ship. With high unemployment, huge levels of debt, unfunded pension schemes and economic stagnation - the eurozone is on its knees. It is far safer to take back control and Vote Leave.



More scaremongering over Calais

Ahead of a UK-French summit, France’s economy minister has claimed that the UK’s border controls in Calais could end if we Vote Leave. This conveniently timed intervention shows that the Government knows its renegotiation has failed. It is yet another example of Project Fear - we should not be fooled by such scare stories. Boris Johnson says as much in his article in today’s Sun.

Last year, the French Interior Minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said this was ‘not a responsible solution… It is a foolhardy path, and one the government will not pursue’. The agreement between France and Britain to allow UK border checks in Calais is a bilateral treaty and has nothing to do with our EU membership. The French have admitted that it is not in their interests to scrap the agreement - this treaty works well for both the UK and France. Proof, if it was needed, that Project Fear isn't backed up by facts.



Don’t believe the scare stories about the UK leaving the EU. Remember…

As the Chairman of the IN campaign admitted: ‘Nothing is going to happen if we come out ... There will be absolutely no change … It’s not going to be a step change or somebody’s going to turn the lights out.’



Today’s must-reads:

Businesses must tear off this EU straitjacket - Priti Patel MP, Times

David Cameron is ‘clutching the skirts of Brussels’ - Boris Johnson, Sun

In crowd got it wrong on euro - Times

Wages for British workers will rise in the event of a Brexit, head of in campaign says - Telegraph

Now the Swiss withdraw their bid to join the EU - Mail

The EU Inners will regret turning Project Fear into Project White Flag - Allister Heath, Telegraph



Vote Leave
www.voteleavetakecontrol.org...



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 08:56 AM
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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite


In fact Holande is probably humping Mertel at the G meetings.



Yuk.... I wish you hadn't said that!!

Now I cant get that picture out of my mind.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
Imagine if we Vote Leave… Wages will rise [as the chairman of the pro-EU BSE campaign admitted yesterday.]
MPs slam BSE campaign
The BSE [Britain Stronger in Europe] campaign was found out yesterday for using ‘dishonest’ figures, selective quotations and ludicrous claims about trade and jobs. Appearing before a committee of MPs, Lord Rose and Will Straw, chairman and chief executive of BSE, admitted that many of the key statistics used in their campaign are not based on facts.



VERY FITTING ...
It also stands for mad cow decease bovine spongiform encephalopathy!

Which I dare say could be applicable too.



Lord Rose stood by the widely discredited claim that every household in the UK benefits by £3,000 per year through EU membership. This was despite Andrew Tyrie MP, chairman of the committee, calling the figure ‘scandalous’ and ‘intellectually dishonest’. He then went on to admit that wages for low-skilled workers would rise if we Vote Leave, before adding that it isn’t 'necessarily a good thing'.

Will Straw blew a hole in their core campaign message by acknowledging that ‘all the trading would go on’ after we leave the EU, and that the claims of an £11 billion rise in prices were ‘entirely speculative’. Crucially, he admitted that the renegotiation would do nothing to change the powers of the EU courts.

Stuart Rose certainly has a colourful CV. At one point he was both chairman

and chief executive of M & S. But it had never quite successful for anyone to

do hold both those rolls, and he was voted by almost 38% against to remaining

as both.

In Feb. 2014 he was recruited to advise the government on turning round

failing NHS Hospitals, asked to examine how to improve the organisational

culture in under performing hospitals, and ways to recruit talent from both

inside and outside of the NHS. Well there doesn't appear to be any significant

difference there the NHS is still in trouble....



Priti Patel, one of the Cabinet ministers backing Vote Leave, has written in the Times today shedding light on how business opinion on the EU has been misrepresented for years. Big business lobby groups such as the CBI called on the UK to join the disastrous European Exchange Rate Mechanism, urged the government to scrap the pound, and are now backing the UK to stay in the EU. They were wrong then and they are wrong now.


One of the best things we ever did was keep the £



Large multinationals can afford expensive lobbyists to shape the rules in their favour and to crush competition. But the EU doesn’t work for entrepreneurs and small businesses. They are suffocated by EU rules, and their innovative and disruptive business models are rejected to preserve the dominance of large corporates.


The EU doesn't do democracy .... it does DIK TATS



Leaving the EU is not a leap into the dark, it is a leap from a sinking ship. With high unemployment, huge levels of debt, unfunded pension schemes and economic stagnation - the eurozone is on its knees. It is far safer to take back control and Vote Leave.


It is falling apart.... and knows that the UK leaving will be the stone that

launches the avalanche that breaks up the EU.



Ahead of a UK-French summit, France’s economy minister has claimed that the UK’s border controls in Calais could end if we Vote Leave. This conveniently timed intervention shows that the Government knows its renegotiation has failed. It is yet another example of Project Fear - we should not be fooled by such scare stories.


We might need to bring back our border to the UK but WE will be in

control. And I have already asked before are they going to swim over?

They'll need a passport to get in!



Last year, the French Interior Minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said this was ‘not a responsible solution… It is a foolhardy path, and one the government will not pursue’. The agreement between France and Britain to allow UK border checks in Calais is a bilateral treaty and has nothing to do with our EU membership. The French have admitted that it is not in their interests to scrap the agreement - this treaty works well for both the UK and France.


If it ain't broke ... don't fix it?



As the Chairman of the IN campaign admitted: ‘Nothing is going to happen if we come out ... There will be absolutely no change … It’s not going to be a step change or somebody’s going to turn the lights out.’
Today’s must-reads:

Businesses must tear off this EU straitjacket - Priti Patel MP, Times

David Cameron is ‘clutching the skirts of Brussels’ - Boris Johnson, Sun

In crowd got it wrong on euro - Times

Wages for British workers will rise in the event of a Brexit, head of in campaign says - Telegraph

Now the Swiss withdraw their bid to join the EU - Mail

The EU Inners will regret turning Project Fear into Project White Flag - Allister Heath, Telegraph


OUT NOW.

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posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 11:48 AM
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ANOTHER REASON FOR LEAVING THE EU.

I have been around for a very long time.... and it is only during the last

few years that Britain has suffered multiple and repeated flooding's of the

'Biblical' kind, this too can be laid at the feet of the EU.


Controversial rules on dredging rivers has been imposed on the UK by the

EU's *European Water Framework Directive* passed into law by Tony Blair's

government in 2000.


Dredging which has taken place for centuries on Britain's waterways removes

built up silt that builds upon the bottom of rivers.

www.dailymail.co.uk... -faster-say-farmers.html
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posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 05:12 PM
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To see Cameron just stand there next to Hollande whilst Hollande threatens the UK with "Consequences" makes my blood boil!

Never did I think I would see the day that an PM would stand against his own country.

I hope the people of the UK see just how spineless Cameron is....
The footage of him standing there whilst threats are made to the UK should be broadcast & used against him & the Pro EU brigade.

He needs to be relieved of the PM position.

VOTE OUT TO SAFEGUARD THE UK FOR OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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Out and still to meet anybody in person who wants to stay in.

Was undecided but Project Fear quickly made my mind up.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 02:06 AM
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Latest vote status at 15 pages shows the LEAVE vote edging up.

%
Eligible IN = 15.52
Eligible OUT = 63.79
Eligible UNDEC = 13.79

InEligible IN = 0.00
InEligible OUT = 6.90
InEligible UNDEC = 0.00
Overall IN OUT UNDEC
% 100.00 % 15.52 70.69 13.79



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 06:16 AM
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originally posted by: johnb
Out and still to meet anybody in person who wants to stay in.

Was undecided but Project Fear quickly made my mind up.


Interesting to see the differing groups people know - i personally only know 1 person who says they will be voting LEAVE (which doesn't actually mean that will be the case!). Everyone else i know is very firmly in the STAY camp, except my wife who annoyingly claims to not care either way!







 
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