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It has nothing to do with magic and many Scientist say Consciousness is non computable.
And there are no limits to "its" expression. No good or bad, right or wrong. Just natural flow of desires, thoughts and emotions behind the veil, controlling our thoughts to a point.
We can think what we want...for some time at least. This is a question of concentration.
So therefore with full one pointed concentration. we could eventually get to a state of no thoughts whatsoever ... that means no karma...that means .. ?
Again, if the spacetime is like a computer screen, then it's holistic and non local nature makes perfect sense and the everything is being computed down to you putting on your socks in the morning to driving home from work at night.
originally posted by: PhotonEffect
But we are not the ones playing the game ("the individuals"). We are the characters in the game, unknowingly being directed to make the choice (like super mario).
An essential feature of Penrose OR is that the choice of states when OR occurs is selected neither randomly (as are choices following measurement or decoherence) nor completely algorithmically. Rather, states are selected by a “non-computable” influence involving information embedded in the fundamental level of spacetime geometry at the Planck scale. Moreover, Penrose claimed that such information is Platonic, representing pure mathematical truth, aesthetic and ethical values. Plato had proposed such pure values and forms, but in an abstract realm. Penrose placed the Platonic realm in the Planck scale.
We propose and demonstrate experimentally a scheme to create entangled history states of the Greenberger-Horne-Zeilinger (GHZ) type. In our experiment, the polarization states of a single photon at three different times are prepared as a GHZ entangled history state. We define a GHZ functional which attains a maximum value 1 on the ideal GHZ entangled history state and is bounded above by 1/16 for any three-time history state lacking tripartite entanglement. We have measured the GHZ functional on a state we have prepared experimentally, yielding a value of 0.656±0.005, clearly demonstrating the contribution of entangled histories.
Physicists Say Consciousness Might Be a State of Matter
It’s not enough to have a brain. Consciousness—a hallmark of humans, mammals, birds, and even octopuses—is that mysterious force that makes all those neurons and synapses “tick” and merge into “you.” It’s what makes you alert and sensitive to your surroundings, and it’s what helps you see yourself as separate from everything else. But neuroscientists still don’t know what consciousness is, or how it’s even possible.
originally posted by: pikestaff
Just where is that huge (universe sized) computer that is running everything, down the the billions of blades of grass and billions of snow flakes?
The fact is, I just showed you Scientist from Duke to Sir Roger Penrose who use things like the math of quantum theory and Godel's theorem to show that consciousness is non computable and yet you don't debate these things you just blindly yell magic like that means something.
You have zero evidence that there's something in your brain causing this to happen that can be computed.
Where's the evidence that shows your brain did some type of computation to decide whether or not to reply to my post?
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
This is Kermit at the doctors - he has had a scan to see what is going on inside him. The doctor tells Kermit to take a seat and to be prepared for a shock.
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
And a year after that I find out that Stars are used on humans the same way as pixels are used for TV, THANKS neoholographic, SO STOKED !
...Except that's not even remotely true. As for your psychotic episode, have you seen a doctor?
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: bandersnatch
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Nothing you have said is backed by a shred of Scientific evidence.
This just shows you're stuck in your blind belief. You say we don't know how consciousness works but you can't accept any claim that consciousness is non computable.
Do you even realize how closed minded and silly that sounds?
If you don't know how something works, how can you rule out what it can't be??????
You have Scientist like Sir Roger Penrose and Physicist that went to Duke and Princeton saying consciousness is non computable but someone should listen to your blind opinion without a shred of evidence to support it?
originally posted by: Phage
everything is being computed down to you putting on your socks in the morning to driving home from work at night.
Ok.
Now what? Have you started working on modifying the code? How does one go about doing so?
Is this notion fundamentally different from the ancient idea of predestination?