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No autopsy for Justice Antonin Scalia. Wait, what???

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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 07:36 PM
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Body of Late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia Arrives at Texas Funeral Home.


Presidio County Judge Cinderela Guevara, who pronounced Scalia dead, told ABC News the death certificate will say the cause of death was natural, and that he died of a heart attack. She said no autopsy was necessary.

Scalia's death to be ruled a heart attack.


Scalia’s remains were discreetly driven by van overnight to an El Paso funeral home with an escort from a procession of Texas Department of Public Safety Troopers and U.S. Marshals Service vehicles.

After arriving at 3:30 a.m. on Sunday, the Sunset Funeral Home embalmed Scalia’s remains, according to Chris Lujuan, a funeral home manager.

Where to begin.

One could argue that a lack of an autopsy is "no big deal". The man was old/er. Apparently, he wasnt feeling well and he "died of natural causes" (ie old age), "in his sleep".

On the other hand, it could be argued that a lack of an autopsy would undoubtedly cause a great deal of speculation and "conspiracy" theories. That he didnt die of so called "natural causes", that there was foul play involved.

Fact is, we neither like nor trust the government.

Do You Trust the Government? 87% of Americans Don't.

Americans Really, Really Hate The Government.

So why give people another reason?

As stated above, he was "discreetly" driven and has already been embalmed...

According to USA Forensics.com, an autopsy is still possible after embalimng but "embalming interferes with most of the toxicology studies"...

So it would make it that much more difficult to determine whether there was something foreign in his system...

Apparently, this has not gone unnoticed.

Urgent calls begin for Scalia autopsy.


“Anytime a head of state, member of Congress, or the most conservative member of the U.S. Supreme Court is found dead, an extensive autopsy and toxicology examination should be both immediate and mandatory,” said Gheen.

“The horrid reaction and comments about his death expressed by many liberals online illustrate that Scalia was hated by many people.

And it happened in Texas of all places.

Nothing strange or questionable has ever happened in Texas...




edit on 14-2-2016 by gladtobehere because: wording



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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

How dare an overweight, 79 year old man die of a heart-attack. Not every single action on the planet requires a conspiracy, a false-flag or other nefarious plot.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: Leonidas

then why was there no autopsy? im sure there are plenty of chemicals/poisons in the world that could mimic a heart attack. and you dont even have to cut him open just get some blood for the toxicology.
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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: Leonidas

True, and that was the first thing that I mentioned.


edit on 14-2-2016 by gladtobehere because: wording



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

Grandfather dies. Wanna cut him open? Maybe he wouldn't want us to?



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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A hunting trip, wow, almost like.....canoe fishing, only ....not. Wonder if he got there by Cesna.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 08:12 PM
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I have read nothing so far indicating Scalia had any sort of health problems. As a matter of fact, one of the articles I read today (can't remember which one right now) said that he was feeling fine when he retired for the night.

Supreme Court justices are monitored for their health.


n Washington, any suggestion that a Supreme Court justice might be unwell can cause a frenzy.

This is part of why details about the justices’ health are so closely guarded — and why they can become a major issue, even for court nominees.

thehill.com...

In this article, several health issues of other justices were mentioned. Not one for justice Scalia.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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Since when were Judges granted the power to pronounce somebody dead? And who names their daughter Cinderela?



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: Rabb420
a reply to: Leonidas

then why was there no autopsy? im sure there are plenty of chemicals/poisons in the world that could mimic a heart attack. and you dont even have to cut him open just get some blood for the toxicology.


Autopsies are generally not performed. They're only performed under suspicious cases or indeterminate cause of death.

He was fat, he was 79. Deal with it.
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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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"We discovered the judge in bed, a pillow over his head. His bed clothes were unwrinkled," said Poindexter.

Poindexter was Owner of Cibolo Creek Ranch

www.mysanantonio.com...
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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: WhateverYouSay

originally posted by: Rabb420
a reply to: Leonidas

then why was there no autopsy? im sure there are plenty of chemicals/poisons in the world that could mimic a heart attack. and you dont even have to cut him open just get some blood for the toxicology.


Autopsies are generally not performed. They're only performed under suspicious cases or indeterminate cause of death.

He was fat, he was 79. Deal with it.


A pillo w on th e face Isnt suspicious enough? WHat you need a syringe next to him as well?



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777
"We discovered the judge in bed, a pillow over his head. His bed clothes were unwrinkled," said Poindexter.

Poindexter was Owner of Cibolo Creek Ranch

www.mysanantonio.com...


And it's been exposed that Poindexter is probably a Democrat.

I wonder if he is having some IRS problems?




posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

There are a lot of incredible important decisions needing action by the court,before the won leaves office, decisions people might kill over?
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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: gladtobehere
lack of an autopsy would undoubtedly cause a great deal of speculation and "conspiracy" theories.

-notes the website=
Well fine, have at it then, seems appropriate here I guess.


Fact is, we neither like nor trust the government.

He was the government though. so, you therefore didn't like him.



So why give people another reason?

Whatever
Whatcha got then? Seems most of the super big cases are over. the healthcare stuff, the campaign finances, etc..so you are arguably discussing vendetta verses judgment consideration assassination, and that is fairly unlikely.

But hey, who knows...might just be a last minute attempt to stack the scotus deck for unforeseen future judgments...just seems like a lot of risk for a maybe future need.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate
A hunting trip, wow, almost like.....canoe fishing, only ....not. Wonder if he got there by Cesna.



Good thing he wasn't with tricky-Dick Cheney. What happened last time, shotgun to the face wasn't it.

Cheers - Dave
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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: bobs_uruncle

yup cheney autopsied that guy in the face and faced no consequence

democracy



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777


I guess it depends on what you read:





About 3:30 a.m. Sunday, Scalia’s family declined to have an autopsy performed, Lujan said so the body was being prepared for funeral and was expected to be transported back to Washington on Monday. Late Sunday, it was under guard by six law enforcement officials, including U.S. marshals and Texas state troopers, he said.


and




The next morning, Scalia did not show up for breakfast. Poindexter at first thought he might be sleeping late, but eventually grew concerned. Late Saturday morning, he and one other person knocked on the door to Scalia’s room, an expansive suite called the “El Presidente.” When there was no answer, they went inside. “Everything was in perfect order. He was in his pajamas, peacefully, in bed,” Poindexter said.


Scalia Death

Even the "MSM" media pointed out that it was odd to report the cause of death over the phone. But they also said that they relied on the DOCTOR of Scalia:




and Scalia’s physician in Washington, who said the 79-year-old justice suffered from a host of chronic conditions.


And a host of law enforcement officials who responded to the scene:




Emergency personnel and officials from the U.S. Marshals Service were called to the scene, then two local judges who also serve as justices of the peace, Guevara said. Both were out of town, she said — not unusual in a remote region where municipalities are miles apart.

edit on 14-2-2016 by DuckforcoveR because: quote was cut off / typo in original article? (sorry)


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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

Sounds like Bin Laden's burial at sea. No body, no proof of the boogeyman's existence past the 1990's. Now, one of the few guardians of the Constitution is dead, and noone had the balls to stand up and demand an autopsy.

Why shouldn't I suspect foul play?

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edit on 14-2-2016 by BELIEVERpriest because: punctuation



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 09:36 PM
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because his family didn't want one? Law enforcement, his doctor, US Marshalls, nobody saw anything out the of the ordinary. And the "gatekeeper of the constitution" was old and overweight, host of health issues, and wasn't found in any disarray.

Could an autopsy even detect one of your heart attack guns? Or if he HAD an autopsy, would you accept "TPTB" results anyways?

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: DuckforcoveR
because his family didn't want one? Law enforcement, his doctor, US Marshalls, nobody saw anything out the of the ordinary. And the "gatekeeper of the constitution" was old and overweight, host of health issues, and wasn't found in any disarray.

Could an autopsy even detect one of your heart attack guns? Or if he HAD an autopsy, would you accept "TPTB" results anyways?

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest


If the family declined the autopsy, then I say that was a foolish decision on their part, but its too late now.

A toxicology report could have ruled out foul play. No "heart attack gun" needed, but thanks for the unwarranted sarcasm.



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