Bernie & Hillary Debate Tonight; Let's Do This!

originally posted by: neo96
Cut off the flow of funding of ISIS ?

Then the current administration needs to stop giving them money.

I would have rather that Obama not pull out the troops in Iraq when they were trying to train their forces to handle their country....

Still sickens me to see ISIS roll around in better US rolling stock than I spent years maintaining ....

I am sure the MIC loved it...

originally posted by: neo96
Cut off the flow of funding of ISIS ?

Then the current administration needs to stop giving them money.

You should look up the McCain-Al Baghdadi meetings.

They have R written all over them.









Now...

You see how pointless the left right mudslinging Jac has been eluding to???


Wake up, Neo, you're smart(er than that)!

a reply to: JacKatMtn

Our new besties the Iranian theocracy sure loved it since they were their arming, and funding those killing Americans in Iraq, and Afghanistan.

The Russian,and Iranian, and Saudi MIC sure loved it.

Bernie nailing why the Middle east is the way it is... and why they hate the US GOVT....

a reply to: neo96

It would be helpful if both Sanders and CLinton weren't LYING.

EVEN if Bernie is lying he is the better of all the candidates. This is why:

1. The biggest issue in Washington is corruption and conflict of interest.

2. You can not expect a corrupted system like Washington to fix anything.

3. You can not fix a corrupted system such as Washington until corruption becomes issue #1.

4. I don't see any other candidate between the republican or democrats that has made corruption their core message besides Bernie.

5. They are all lying but atleast he has the right message.

I don't expect Bernie to fix anything, all I expect him to do is to simply continue the message that issue number is corruption. So the general public finally puts 2 and 2 together and stops chasing their tails in trying to fix the symptoms.

We can't fix corruption until it becomes issue number 1 and its discussed over an over. Party ideals are a lower priority when the system is corrupted.

Bringing focus to corruption is a very very small step with huge return on investment for us all in the future.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

How about Kerry and CLintons ?

NIce try 'blaming' McCain.

And raise two sec states and a potus.

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
Bernie nailing why the Middle east is the way it is... and why they hate the US GOVT....

i was getting worried SAnders wouldnt understand the importance of western imperialism, a topic for another thread im sure.

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
Bernie nailing why the Middle east is the way it is... and why they hate the US GOVT....

I don't think so.

The reason the middle east is screwed up is because Saudi Arabia, and Iran is waging a civil war between themselves for regional control.

a reply to: neo96

new beastie?


Nice.... who created that beastie?

For those who fail to fall for the hype, it's quite clear why .....

Less koolaid, more research is what I would suggest...

YMMV

Anyone else catch the we need a "fusion" comment from Mrs. Clinton? Followed up by better local surveillance of state government and a tattle tale system? Bear in mind the tattle tale system killed a security guard on his way to work because he was reported to have a gun he was shot 59 times...

The fusion she stated we need immediately made me think of the Jessie Ventura TV episode about Fusion centers.

Then she starts with the fear and doom porn to rationalize... a possibility that people will be processed through these fusion centers... is this going to be something compulsory like the mandatory for all depression test thread?

I'm even more concerned about establishment being rigged into office now than before.

a reply to: Annee

I would need to find an unbiased site with real info. Not easy to find in the Hillary witch hunt. Certainly not gonna get that here on ATS.

You should always do that but are any of those industries better or fixed that she claimed to have taken on?


However, FWIW I have no party loyalty what so ever, and I think both the DNC and the GOP are equally corrupted and their actions are one in the same.

I also believe in libertarian ideals and disagree with Bernies view in socialism or growing govt in a corrupted system but I think he is the only one that is talking about the real issue in this country which is corruption and conflict of interest. I started this thread cause of it.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

How about Kerry and CLintons ?

NIce try 'blaming' McCain.

And raise two sec states and a potus.

Ugh, can you not see that I'm not blaming McCain, rather I'm showing you the pointlessness of blame shifting to D or R when they've both aided ISIS' rise to power?

If you can't see that then maybe you're not as smart as I think you can be.

a reply to: JacKatMtn

Nice.... who created that beastie?

FDR.

articles.baltimoresun.com...

And.

Mossadegh had sought to audit the books of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British corporation (now BP) and to change the terms of the company's access to Iranian petroleum reserves

en.wikipedia.org...

The US and the UK mostly the UK since they are the ones that profited the most.

And that was just a blimp on the radar since the Sunni/Shia split over the last 1400 years.

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
Bernie nailing why the Middle east is the way it is... and why they hate the US GOVT....

The middle east has been screwed up for a long, long time. The US had nothing to do with it.

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: Annee

I would need to find an unbiased site with real info. Not easy to find in the Hillary witch hunt. Certainly not gonna get that here on ATS.

You should always do that .

Oh, believe me, I always do my own research.

I am definitely not Libertarian - - for me their ideas are "once was".

I was ready to be persuaded by Bernie, not happening. He is losing this debate. IMO

So Sanders wants to put 'boots' in the ground in Europe ?

Too funny.

The answer is simple Bernie - get out of the business of overthrowing dictators and maintaining perpetual warfare!!!

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
Bernie nailing why the Middle east is the way it is... and why they hate the US GOVT....

The middle east has been screwed up for a long, long time. The US had nothing to do with it.

The US had nothing to do with it.

Blinded to Bush Sr and his spawn.


Bull#.

OH geez Saudi and Turkey ?

Who gives a crap about their interests.

Clinton like those who come before just loves them.

SAnders and no fly zones ?

Yeah I don't see US shooting down Russian Migs, and Hinds.

Sanders is worse than Obama on Foreign Policy.