Iowa Caucus Discussion.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: DBCowboy

Well here I thought this was to be a discussion of the caucus, but I guess it is a prediction party. Never the less.

I wonder that we all accept the Iowa Caucus so readily. When I was young and began to pay attention to the election cycles, one of the first things that I came across was how these caucus always created such a stir. Then I noticed something else. I noticed that voters tend to vote for the more popular names, both R and D. And then after Iowa comes NH. And all the candidates are focusing on those two states. The first two to vote.

It seemed common sense to me that those who happened to be in the lead after those two votes, generally went on to get nominated. Generally. That the landswell of popularity after those two states seemed to focus on the winners, and we know that the vast number of voters like to vote for a winner.

I then realized that these two states ALWAYS vote first. Now why is that. How is it that a little state like Iowa with only around 3 million people with the largest city being under 1 million always got to set the tone for the over all election. How is it that what these voters think is right ends up being, well, the way it is? By the time the primaries get to the states with the most people, like California and New York and Texas, the whole thing is almost set in stone.

How is it we end up judging our candidates by the values of such a small group of people.

I think we should get away from Iowa completely. I think that the mayors of say a dozen large cities like NY and LA and Atlanta and Houston and Chicago should hold primaries before Iowa. Instead of listening to only 3 million, many of whom live in rural areas, we might listen to the votes of 50 million who live in the big cities for our bellwether.

Now I do not think that this idea is unconstitutional or against the law. I think that there should be a Big Cities Primary a week before Iowa. Why not???

But do I have a prediction on this years culling? Nah.

I dont think Iowa sets the tone. Didnt Santorum win it in 2012? I suspect Super Tuesday is the key date.

Fox are saying 'private polls' suggest Trump leads on intent to vote tonight, with Rubio in second place... probably BS. What is a private poll anyhow? Probably one person making it up!

originally posted by: CynConcepts

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: ketsuko
If the young and dumb were really all that committed to voting...

The dumb do vote. They dutifully pull the handles for people with little R's and D's next to their names and expect different results.

What is worse is the older women who still want to vote for Hillary just so they can be a part of voting for the first woman president. Grrr....Dumb and dumber! It is frustrating talking to such stubborn individuals.

Just to give you hope, I know of three women voting for Bernie tonight.

One is 24, one is 38, and one is my mom who is 60.
I thought my mom would be for Hillary but she saw Bernie in iowa city Saturday and thought he was awesome .

It doesn't bode well for Hillary if women are backing Bernie in equal numbers .

originally posted by: elitegamer23

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I think you would be jealous of me tonight Buzzy. I'm actually in Iowa at the Sanders event. Working of course.

The caucuses begin soon but the number of people here, and those expected to be afterwards, is insane.

Don't know if this is a sign of things to come, but people are sure excited over Bernie here tonight.

What city do you find yourself in tonight introvert?

Lucky for me I get to help start this insane process of voting for a leader of the USA tonight and my gf and I are heading out in an hour.

I really hope the democrats turn out in comparable numbers to republicans.
Could only mean good things come November .

I'm in Des Moines. We fully expect at least 2,000 people plus to come to his event tonight where he will give his speech after the caucus results are in.

a reply to: stosh64

You're new here, aren't you?

The day after the election there will be innumerable threads about election fraud. Two or three weeks, probably less, the run up to the midterms will begin...followed by, you guessed it, the run up to the Presidential election cycle.

www.realclearpolitics.com... good set of polls here for any one curious

My wife is on the iPad and she was laughing at a post on Facebook.

"Voting for your favorite politician is like picking the best STD to have."

hahahahahahahaha

originally posted by: Kitana
a reply to: Kali74

A democratic socialist is a socialist who only signed up to the democrat party to run on the democrat party ticket.

No.

Democratic Socialism is still Capitalist. Socialism is not.

a reply to: introvert

I'm a little confused about the Caucus. Is it so that the caucus goes on for 3 days?

originally posted by: Kali74

originally posted by: Kitana
a reply to: Kali74

A democratic socialist is a socialist who only signed up to the democrat party to run on the democrat party ticket.

No.

Democratic Socialism is still Capitalist. Socialism is not.

Socialism is not Capitalism no matter how many dress up terms you put in front of it.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Democratic socialism is mostly socialism.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Democratic Socialism is mostly Capitalism

Right! It is!!


Or, were you being facetious, and it flopped?; ya know, kinda like Cruz mentioned Lady Gaga? Or suggested he would walk off stage?
EDIT:

Democratic socialism is mostly socialism.

OOohhhh..
Nice try. Changed it suddenly....but, I saw your first version.......
.... You said it before you edited....
it is mostly Capitalism.

Freudian slip much?

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: DBCowboy

Right! It is!!

Or, were you being facetious, and it flopped?; ya know, kinda like Cruz mentioned Lady Gaga? Or suggested he would walk off stage?

Can't hit a home run every time at bat.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Kayyyyy! Of course it would help to know what actual Socialism is to begin with.

*shrug

a reply to: DBCowboy

Nope. Capitalism won't change at all. Only where we collect taxes from and to distribute them.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

You're right.

I erred. It happens a lot. Just to those of us who are unsophisticated.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: DBCowboy

Nope. Capitalism won't change at all. Only where we collect taxes from and to distribute them.

I'm just going to agree to disagree.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Proofreading is not very common with some......

But, you get a freebie on that one. It happens.....sometimes I'm so passionate I don't properly proof-read either.

You caught it really fast, though - nice job.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Well, how do you see capitalism changing? The only changes I see coming is reining in those who corrupt Capitalism. What's your take?

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: introvert

I'm a little confused about the Caucus. Is it so that the caucus goes on for 3 days?

No. Each individual district is a bit different, but they usually last only a couple hours. Sometime less, sometimes a bit longer.

We will hear results tonight.