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originally posted by: beansidhe
a reply to: Anaana
I know! I know it's wrong to find him attractive for so many, many reasons and yet I just can't help myself.
I would say most of the Irish Annals, like the Lebor Gabala Erenn et al have a huge amount of real history in them, it's just that it's fashionable right now (well, 19th century onwards) to dismiss them out of hand. I shall have to go back and read the Book of Leinster again, and Nennius too while I'm at it.
originally posted by: oletimer
a reply to: beansidhe
does not look like a library of Druids, does it?
originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: beansidhe
However, i truly do not believe any lost library would contain any scrolls, etc, from the Druids. Why? Because the Celts didn't have written records until the invention of Ogham (sometime circa 5th Century AD). As Mona had been destroyed by around 58AD, that means nearly 400 years before Ogham.
Looooong story short, we often never give credit where credit is due until it is staring us directly in the face and even than, it could take a generation or twelve to accept it. My posts proves nothing, only that I take most history with a grain of salt. Sometimes the repression of a people is so great their past can be rewritten altogether and their culture completely assimilated long before we modern people's decided to go digging.
The Coelbren y Beirdd (English: "Bards' alphabet") is a runic alphabet system created in the late eighteenth century by the literary forger Edward Williams, best known as Iolo Morganwg....
Taliesin Williams's book was written about other Coelbrennau'r Beirdd, which is the name of a Welsh language manuscript in the Iolo Manuscripts and two manuscripts in Barddas, one with the subtitle "yn dorredig a chyllell".
Iolo Morganwg suggested they were originally the work of bards from Glamorgan who had their manuscripts copied into collections stored at Plas y Van, Castell Nedd Abbey, Margam Abbey and Raglan Library, and compiled by Meyrig Davydd and Lewys Morganwg, amongst others, in the 1700s.
These were suggested to have again been transcribed by Edward Davydd, John Bradford and Llywelyn Siôn. Moganwg suggested that he had collected some of Siôn and Bradford's manuscripts, while the majority, including all of Lewys Morganwg's sources, were lost. This claim to authenticity has been questioned by numerous scholars such as Glyn Cothi Lewis.