Did William Casey (ex CIA Director) really say this?

a reply to: elementalgrove

I'm not sure we read the same book. The book you linked, is not about the US being the only superpower. Well he is, in one sense, but it's definitely not as you would read it. He's saying the US is likely the last global superpower. That a country like China could never be, because as he puts it, "anyone can be an American, and only the Chinese can be Chinese", and that the world can accept American hegemony that way. However, he says that as the world catches up, it will be less one of dominance, and more one of equality, and his goal is to help Europe become a steering partner towards greater worldwide governance and equality. Hardly seems bad to me.

I think one of the problems with Brzezinski is that he does analysis that is often not making any sort of moral judgment. That is to say, he might say this is going to happen, or that is going to happen, and they might be negative, but he's not advocating for those things, they're predictive given certain factors.

originally posted by: zerozero00
a reply to: Moresby
I'm sure I'm not the only one here that can't watch tv, especially commercial advertisements, my brain feels like it's under attack from some serious BS...almost like a secret government special deadly brain weapon!!...😎...oh..hold on a minute

I agree with this. I studied Propaganda it was one of the major parts we covered, obviously we were taught how the Nazi's used it. Almost straight after I left college I realised it was still alive and well.

Where I live I don't have a standard aerial, we had a satellite box which we relied on (mainly for live sport if I'm honest)
and when it broke I turned solely to internet, PC into my TV.

Due to this for about 6 years I have barely seen an advertisement, the 10 O'clock News, brain numbing morning television etc.

So now whenever I'm at someone's house and see the TV on I have the exact same effect, it's like one big bull# stream and nearly everyone is oblivious.

All I'd like to add is, along with the obvious propaganda there is another facet to this, the dumbing down of the population and with the shear amount of content, which in itself is a Huxley idea rather than the common view of it being 1984-esque etc.

Here's a small comic strip comparing Huxley and Orwell and how their ideas are perpetuated today.

Orwell vs Huxley

Everyone should really look at this, some will already be aware of it.

Finally, as for the comment from another poster "no one is able to escape propaganda" I agree a little bit, if you go into most subjects with a skeptical but open mind and are beware of confirmation bias (not backed by real proof) along with the information trying to change your mind you are already doing something 95% of the public aren't doing.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

So, my ATS friends, does this really surprise any of you?

Reminds me of this:



People believe what they want to.

That being said, it's worth pointing out two things:

As far as I can tell, there's only one "source" for this attribution, a journalist named Mae Brussell. That's it. No one else, to my knowledge, has ever corroborated this. A single source tends to be problematic in that you have little way of knowing if it's in fact accurate; if a quote was transcribed incorrectly, or misunderstood, or made up all together, we'd be none the wiser.[1]

We don't have any idea of the context in which the alleged quote was said. All that there is is the single sentence which, all on its own, becomes pretty worthless unless you want to imprint pre-existing beliefs on it. Without the larger context of the statement, we have no idea whether or not it was actually said in the manner in which subsequent people have clearly intended it to come across as. For all we know, it could be the punch line of a joke or even some very worthwhile advice about trying to make disinformation so believable to the Soviets that it's even believable to Americans, rather than something that sounds ominously dark.

[1] Adding to this was the fact that Brussell had a reputation for being something of a conspiracy theorist. While that, in and of itself, shouldn't necessarily make what she claimed wrong, it certainly means that we ought to adopt a much more stringent approach to dealing with stuff she said happened.

www.quora.com... elieves-is-false

One source of sketchy credibility does not a fact make.

In a court of law it would be hearsay.

In the courts of kangaroo courts of public opinion it would be taken as fact.

Of course 99% of 'facts' surrounding politics, and it's agencies themselves is disinformation.

There was a national poll on the news tonight, that nearly 80% of the folks in the US didn't trust the Government.

I learned many years back when i was growing up, that everything is a lie, that what we perceive as reality, is merely a manipulation perpetrated by a few well placed folks and their families, from the beginning of time.

Like the Joker said "You've got to break a few Eggs to make an Omelet"

If you've ever watched the Movie "White Sands" with Willam Defoe and Mickey Rourke? It tells a story, A reality of what truly goes on in this world of Chaos and Propaganda, and why ,even if there is some truth, it always overshadowed by a manipulative Lie, Because we all know, that The Powers that Be, can never leave us alone, We must be enslaved to their whim, or the world just wont move forwards

People are amazed at that? Wow. You really believe TPTB are on your side.

originally posted by: deloprator20000
a reply to: tweetie

They don't need to be all powerful to direct and control much of the world and/or world events.

They were powerful enough that when the hammer came down in 2011, most every true believer ran for cover.

I will concede to "some" of the world and/or world events but not "much" of them. I know what they do; one thing of which was to have mastered the science of programming and controlling the mind (individual as well as group) for nefarious purposes and to make it self-perpetuating.

I don't know what you mean by "when the hammer came down in 2011." (?) I could have missed or forgotten something in this thread.

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