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European Migration Crisis thread

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posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: anxiouswens

Great thread..thank you..




posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: anxiouswens

"The problem France has it can't return them because a lot have destroyed their papers and their host Countries won't accept them back"..

Isn't that an interesting strategy..someone seeking asylum due to persecution keeps and maintains their documentation..


A government unwilling to take them back, is an accomplice..


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posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 03:45 PM
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There are two major msm news stations in France: BFM and iTele and I watch these stations regularly..I also notice that they sometimes lag on issues or stories concerning the migration issue, but recently I saw a some reporting on these channels showing interviews of the residents of Pas de Calais, and in those interviews, some persons were almost beginning to tear, and expressing fear because these migrant delinquent vagrants (that's my language not theirs) were approaching their property and their vehicles on the highways or roads.. People stated that they were now worried or scared about opening the shutters of their windows, and many were upset or angry that this is all approaching this point.

At some point, since the Front National is gaining ground in much of France, I see much of the stagnant response as a way for the PS to maintain control of the dilemma, and ensure a Sarkozy win in the following elections-- I do not want Sarkozy to win; but to avoid a win by the FN, the PS is willing to do anything-- including compromise their own xitizens..

I can't stand the way Socialists seem to be collaborating in all of this in the name of "sensitivity."


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posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: grainofsand

I don't appose border control.
I do oppose hate & fear mongering amongst the weak of mind though.
That is the message I get loud & clear.



posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: FamCore

Mmm okay, so how do you respond to these individuals "at the top?" Or rather the "elite" as everyone likes to call them..

They are nobodies, and merely a group of people that belong to "new" money, not old traditional money. Like art deco wine, instead of vintage material: I gaurantee you they have very poor taste;

They have no roots, and are grounded no where and in no nation state. There is absolutely nothing special about them, and merely because they own bit coins and euros, does not make them valuable or above anyone-- they are the people who know nothing about what treasures are and might be;

My question though is, how do you create a situation where individuals become a threat to these folks? How do you throw off their Mead agenda and daily planner? Is it really that difficult? They are synthetic new money that has no house and certainly no castle; I personally see nothing threatening about them..


I am tired of sitting on the internet about these things, and I am hoping that activists begin to organize on this issue, and promptly.
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posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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Ah , okay, would you consider it fear-mongering of me to say I don't want those rioting migrants (mostly adult males) in Calais entering the UK illegally?

Remember, without our border controls on the French side many thousands of them would have been simply let onto the tunnel trains by now. The French don't want them there either.
Yep I support the current stance of the UK government and I do not envy people living in the mainland of Europe.



posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: rajas
a reply to: anxiouswens

YOu start good,and then you just do the same fraking thing again..




lot of the people in these camps are failed asylum seekers or economic migrants (there are a very small number who are genuine refugees from Syria).


you say " I think most people in these camps" And If you do a statement you present facts with it



He's just stating obvious facts, why so frazzled and rattled? It's an important issue, maybe you should sit down read and listen..



posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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I empathise with you with regard to being a carer. I am a carer for my mum who is 88 with vascular dementia. I have nothing to be ashamed off. I worked 27 years non-stop. I had my child later in life by IVF paid for privately by money we had saved. He was such a blessing to me (no money in the world could compare to the feeling I had when I first met him). Shortly after I had him there were stresses when we found he had a heart condition and at the same time my father was diagnosed cancer of oesophagus and we were told it was terminal. My sister and I nursed him until he died. My mother's health was deteriorating so I was also caring for her. It was a very tough time (everyone gets them even the ones who think they are at a great height, all the further to fall I always think and at some point they usually do, life has a nasty habit of coming back and biting you on the backside). Since then there have bee lots of things with my own health. I always like to think I paid for my nephews and nieces education with all the taxes I paid. They are now all grown up, one is a Barrister, two Accountants and one a deputy head in a school. My dad had his own company and worked all his life nearly. He retired when he was 75 and died not so long after. I like to think all the taxes he paid and all the taxes my nephews, nieces and sister are paying are now paying me for me at a time when I need that help. Money has never been my thing although I have thoroughly enjoyed the best restaurants, the best hotels and wonderful memories. The best ones have been the ones that have been free of charge, watching a sunset with someone I love. Money can only get you so far in life, it means nothing if your health is failing and it means nothing if it doesn't stop people you love from dying.a reply to: liteonit6969



posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:04 PM
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Is this the first time these people have rioted?
No. So not much to tell us then really/
What was the outcome of the said riot?
What changed exactly?
Nothing but more fear amongst the weak minded.
Who thankfully are few & far.



posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:11 PM
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I hope this can be a thread which is ongoing for people just to share anything that crops up within Europe. If people really want to find out truth it needs to be a continuous thread I believe. Where there can be debates etc. There are some though I've noticed do this on lots of threads to shut them down. The same happened this morning I think on someone else's thread I was reading. I hadn't posted on there but the OP was kind of getting the same stuff thrown at him. There are activists on all sides and their soul intention is to derail subjects like this as they have done in life for years. Thankfully we still have some freedoms for the moment, although the way things are going I'm not sure for how much longer as already people are being gagged as new laws are coming in.



posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: rajas
a reply to: anxiouswens

Im gonna ask you an honest question;

Do you want to fight and maybe die for what you believe in?

The other question:

Do you think all you know will fight and maybe die for what they believe in?


The battle is in exposing the nwo Mead daily planner agenda..the more people see and understand that there is something being orchestrated, the sooner they will be able to respond to the issue and the threat at hand.. at this point, it's not quite yet about placing your life on the line, or the life of your family on the line, at least physically that is.. we are at a point, where rational analysis of the situation, and appropriate response are necessary, and that response needs to be guided and driven by the citizenry..

So at this point, the idea is to disburse and expose information and dis-information, mobilize and organize, in a manner that will obtain the attention of leaders who seem to set on diverting attention to the seriousness of the issue..


Ecologists, forest people, organize anti-GMO people do this type of mobilization all of the time: it's time to mobilize against the fallacy and fabrication of this refugee crisis;



posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
This thread was created to be an ongoing thread. There are people on here who appear in every thread to try and derail the thread or to get the moderators to step in because things get so out of hand. If your intentions are to do this here then you are going against what you actually say annoys you - numerous threads, because people who are concerned like me aren't going to stop posting threads just because a small few don't agree when there are plenty that do agree Its called democracy.


Indeed, the people who "derail" are those that don't seem to have clarity or understanding about the issue at hand..This thread is not about discrimination or lookcism etc, it's about the threat of vagrants and criminals that been allowed to abundantly enter Europe without screening, interrogation or observation..


There is nothing wrong with fearing criminal minds and criminal behavior, even if it is of a culturally embedded nature;
Crime is crime..You break the law, you're a criminal..



posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:22 PM
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posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
I hope this can be a thread which is ongoing for people just to share anything that crops up within Europe. If people really want to find out truth it needs to be a continuous thread I believe. Where there can be debates etc. There are some though I've noticed do this on lots of threads to shut them down. The same happened this morning I think on someone else's thread I was reading. I hadn't posted on there but the OP was kind of getting the same stuff thrown at him. There are activists on all sides and their soul intention is to derail subjects like this as they have done in life for years. Thankfully we still have some freedoms for the moment, although the way things are going I'm not sure for how much longer as already people are being gagged as new laws are coming in.


What was the thread topic that you are referrring to? You know what would be really great, is if some kind of radio broadcast could be started, with input from all nations, to be able to stay on top of what is currently happening throughout eu nations..

Many persons from many nations would have the opportunity to call in and discuss their experiences about this issue and the events pertaining thereto-- too much is being ignored by msm.

A 24 hour radio broadcast, discussing and relaying what is curent everywhere: maybe someone off of a university campus or something.. starting a show that lasts a few hours a day at least..



Also, I did want to mention one thing, it does seem as though Hungary and Sweden have taken new action to close and control borders, I will have to retrieve those articles, but the idea is that there has been a freeze that has been conducted in a number of nations- some control measures have been set into place: here is a great website: www.gatestoneinstitute.org...
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posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:26 PM
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posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: supamoto
a reply to: grainofsand

Is this the first time these people have rioted?
No. So not much to tell us then really/
What was the outcome of the said riot?
What changed exactly?
Nothing but more fear amongst the weak minded.
Who thankfully are few & far.
Lots of words, but how about share your opinion as I did?
Do you want the UK government to open the border to those men in Calais who are refusing to register in France?




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