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Russian cargo plane crashes after taking off in South Sudan, dozens dead

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posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 01:39 PM
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A Russian-built cargo plane with passengers on board crashed on Wednesday (Wednesday night NZ Time) after taking off from the airport in South Sudan's capital, killing dozens of people, witnesses said.

An official said three people on board survived.

The precise death toll was not immediately clear after the Antonov-12 B plane turbo prop plane crashed soon after take off, leaving chunks of wreckage, bodies and cargo strewn along a bank of the White Nile River.

Airplane just crashed near Juba Int'l Airport shortly after taking off. #EyeRadio’s D Santo: over 40 passengers died pic.twitter.com/SuFExWfX0Z
— Eye Radio Juba (@EyeRadioJuba) November 4, 2015

Initial images of the plane crash site in #Juba #SouthSudan #JubaAirCrash @unmissmedia @TalkofJuba pic.twitter.com/Q6Y7FhUp12
— Radio Miraya (@RadioMiraya) November 4, 2015

The Civil Aviation Authority said the number of dead was still being counted.



Russian cargo plane crashes after taking off in South Sudan, dozens dead

Well this is getting strange.Another russian plane crash..........Wonder if this was an accident?
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posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: hiddenNZ
Well this is getting strange.Another russian plane crashes in the ME..........Wonder if this was an accident?


South Sudan is a landlocked country in Africa, it is not in the Middle East.




edit on 4-11-2015 by AugustusMasonicus because: Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Edited,thanks for that,im a little more educated now



posted on Nov, 4 2015 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: hiddenNZ

It wasn't Russian. It was owned by a company in Tajikistan, and operated by a Sudanese cargo company. It was flown by a mixed crew, mostly Armenian, with one Russian crew member.

This particular aircraft first flew in 1971, and has a long history.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 03:06 AM
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a reply to: hiddenNZ

This is very disturbing, somebody, either the US or Israel, or both, are provoking Russia and pushing for war here.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 05:04 AM
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originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: hiddenNZ

This is very disturbing, somebody, either the US or Israel, or both, are provoking Russia and pushing for war here.


Yes you are right the dirty Americans..... (sarcasm).
Any proof of that or is that a gut feeling. Air plane's crash that doesn't mean the US is responsible.
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posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 05:48 AM
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a reply to: Azureblue

No they're not, because it wasn't a Russian plane. It was Russian built, there's a huge difference between the two.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 06:26 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Azureblue

No they're not, because it wasn't a Russian plane. It was Russian built, there's a huge difference between the two.


Correct. en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Nov, 6 2015 @ 02:01 AM
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originally posted by: hillbilly4rent

originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: hiddenNZ

This is very disturbing, somebody, either the US or Israel, or both, are provoking Russia and pushing for war here.


Yes you are right the dirty Americans..... (sarcasm).
Any proof of that or is that a gut feeling. Air plane's crash that doesn't mean the US is responsible.


They say that past behiviour predicts future behaviour. The US has demonstrated through their record that they are the most war like nation in the world. Material I read recently regarding their military history leaves one with a clear and distinct impression that the US either does not know how or chooses not to live in peace with other communities in the word. It seems that Americans believe that their own salvation lies in conquering the rest of the world

The Wolfowitz doctrine, the basis of US foreign and military policy, declares that the rise of Russia or any other country cannot be permitted, because the US is the Uni-power and cannot tolerate any constraint on its unilateral actions.

It seems the US regards any country with an independent foreign policy as a threat to the US. The US has, not so much these days, said that they will do whatever they consider is in the best interests of the US. Thruth is the first casulaty in war.

Just look at the record of US interference and assult on other countries and compare with what they say in public. The US has absolutely no creditbility, self respect or diginity left in the eyes of the rest of the world.

If the US and Americians want to get upset about people pre-judging them and immedialty suspecting them of being behind a downed passenger plane they have only themselves to balme don't they?



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 01:04 AM
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I get the strong impression lately that the US are going out of their way to f--k with Russia.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: hiddenNZ

If the Russians are lacking spare parts, or just plain incompetent, that's not unusual. Did anyone else see the news story a few years ago about how bad US planes are, and how one airline had supervisors telling mechanics NOT to fix things? Eventually a mechanic went public.

edit on 8-11-2015 by bulrush because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: Brett83

And what did Russia have to do with this? It wasn't one of their planes, only one crew member was Russian. So how exactly was this messing with Russia again?



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 07:14 AM
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They say that past behiviour predicts future behaviour.


it's funny how people use that when it supports their view, but when it used to counter their view it's BS.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

It was a Russian manufactured plane. I am suggesting this maybe was a subtle warning...or metaphorical one.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: Brett83

That doesn't make sense. If they wanted to do that there are far easier ways to do it. This was an aircraft that first flew in 1971, in an area with a history of poor maintenance practices, that was probably overloaded, illegally carrying passengers.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Well, it does make sense: "It's Russian, lets f--k it up." Don't underestimate the pettiness of governments, especially the US.

But you are probably right, Russian tech is not known for reliability.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 10:34 AM
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an old prop aircraft, Russian made....but in 1971--->>> that's 44 years of service and probably a dozen different owners before it got swallowed up in some African wasteland.
(re
Zaphod58


I don't even entertain the idea that a lone-wolf Jihadist pulled off a sabotage Jihad on a old Russian Junker aircraft.


"Paranoia will destroy Ya" ... that's what I always heard
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posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: St Udio
an old prop aircraft, Russian made....but in 1971--->>> that's 44 years of service and probably a dozen different owners before it got swallowed up in some African wasteland.
(re
Zaphod58


I don't even entertain the idea that a lone-wolf Jihadist pulled off a sabotage Jihad on a old Russian Junker aircraft.



I don't either.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 10:41 AM
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They had a max load of cargo, and over thirty unauthorized passengers. The lone adult survivor said he paid less than $30 for a seat. That was split between the person he paid and the pilot. Most of the passengers were sitting on the cargo.



posted on Nov, 8 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: Azureblue


They say that past behiviour predicts future behaviour.


it's funny how people use that when it supports their view, but when it used to counter their view it's BS.


yes, its a circular fallacy.
be it as it may, still statistically accurate.



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