How on earth is promoting violence, genocide and torture somehow socially acceptable?

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: nonspecific

Hmmmm..... I thought about it and no, I don't have much pity for child rapists.

The lit on fire might be a little much to some people but castration is an acceptable cure to that problem when guilt is proven without a doubt.

Yeah, I only object to the burning to death thing. I think every sex offender should be offered castration in exchange for time served. When faced with 30 years in prison, I think some might consider it.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Feel free to ignore this if it seems an invasion of privacy, BH...

But in what way was it eye opening?

I'm sitting here wondering and I don't know if I could ever trust the word of a molester.

a reply to: nonspecific

Well we have some lunatics that supports slavery like that this guy.

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: projectvxn

What "WAR" are you referring to in your post please?

The constant war against our own darkness as humans.

We desperately try to wipe it out regardless of how much of it presents itself.

It is perfectly acceptable to destroy those who would prey on the weak. Like paedophiles.

Why would it not be? They believe themselves predators and the children they destroy their prey.

There are people who exist solely to cause harm to those evil people. I will always applaud their efforts to destroy them.

Lets just leave it there then eh?

You like the thought of retribution even though it changes nothing but makes you feel all powerfull and I feel that it will not change something that has already occured.

Don't think of it as retribution, think of it as prevention.

You will prevent this freeking pervert from harming others. As I said, physical castration (not that drug crap) will work just fine to keep the perv from perving again.

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: nonspecific

Some people just need killing. To me, that's it. Some people can't be reasoned with. They can't be hugged better. Locking them away doesn't solve it all the time. The world would truly be a better place with some people taken from it. One can be as peace loving and love thy neighbor as one wants to be and that's great, but there are some people who will do nothing but take every advantage of that attitude they can.

But I think the overwhelming majority of people like to act like Billy Badass, especially online, because it makes them feel better. And it makes others feel better to see that somebody else said the same thing they did. Ergo, you get acceptance.

I think that your opening statement pretty much sums up my issue here.

"Some people just need killing"...

I kind of knew I should not have started this and your comment confirms my instincts. I really do not understand this.

You're right, you don't understand. As loathe as I am to introduce the Hitler argument, I can't see any reason to have kept him alive. Can you? He moved a nation to make global war in a matter of a few years. A person who is inherently evil has no reason to continue to be given the opportunity to be evil. Lock him up? Super, now he's inflicting his evil on guards and prisoners. How many of them should be killed or maimed before the problem is taken care of?

It doesn't matter though. You don't really want discussion or back and forth. You wanted to make your points and dismiss what doesn't line up with it. So yea, it is your issue. Meh.

You're right in that I do not understand your viewpoint yes.

So you have an opinion of what is wrong and those that are in your eyes wrong should be killed? As in wipe out those who do not fit in with your viewpoint?

What exactly makes your viewpoint right and anothers wrong, why does your opinion override that of another?

I find it interesting that you mentioned Hitler given that he had a very specific viewpoint as to who was right and also who should be killed.

An eye for an eye never works. Capital punishment is an affront. People who commit terrible crimes should be incarcerated.

Otherwise, we are as good as the Saudi's. Our US friends take note.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: nonspecific

Some people just need killing. To me, that's it. Some people can't be reasoned with. They can't be hugged better. Locking them away doesn't solve it all the time. The world would truly be a better place with some people taken from it. One can be as peace loving and love thy neighbor as one wants to be and that's great, but there are some people who will do nothing but take every advantage of that attitude they can.

True

a reply to: paraphi

Lol you imply what is inhumane and then advocate for locking people in cages...

Western brainwashing at its finest.


How cute.

a reply to: nonspecific

im with you. you have people that say "people act like bad asses online" whilst calling for other humans to be killed because its the only way...
in this very thread.
but i see this over and over. one thread the hypocrites call for reason, end of prejudice, or end of inequality. Next thread theyre are discriminating against even the way people talk, let alone their religion or life choices.
one thread they are against senseless acts of killing, 2 days later they want to wipe out an entire race.

the old me (ironically the younger me) would call those people puppets, or would boldly say the best way to deal with those hypocrites is lethal injection; i would be no better than them. (and someone would have a solution for me too im sure...)

I think in light of all the seemingly endless wartime and chaos man have been experiencing for the past 4-5 decades, we have evolved slightly to blindly let our emotions trump reason.

IMHO

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: paraphi

Lol you imply what is inhumane and then advocate for locking people in cages...

Western brainwashing at its finest.


How cute.

Depends what is in the cage with the perv.

a reply to: infolurker

May I suggest a rabid bull pumped up with steroids and viagra?

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: infolurker

May I suggest a rabid bull pumped up with steroids and viagra?

I think general population would be enough. Prisoners typically don't treat pedophiles very well in prison.

a reply to: Abysha

Point initially being that locking people up in a cage is a psychological punishment as mush as a physical punishment...

And that's defined as torture.


Tax evasion? 5X8 cell...
Petty theft? 5X8 cell...
Unprovoked homocide? 5X8 cell...
Rape? 5X8 cell...
Marijuana possession? 5X8 cell...



Somewhere along the way we #ed up royally...


Crime & Punishment was never so necessary than when it comes to paedosadism.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Feel free to ignore this if it seems an invasion of privacy, BH...

But in what way was it eye opening?

I'm sitting here wondering and I don't know if I could ever trust the word of a molester.

It's not a problem. I have talked a lot about it here. It's not their word I trusted. It's my assessment of the sickness that was apparent in every one of them. I asked questions, and got answers that showed me that these people really did not think they had done anything wrong. Some blamed the kids for "flirting". Others denied what they'd done, even though they'd been proven guilty. They made excuses. It was really physically sickening... They did not live in the world of reality.

Something about their pathetic denial and their miserable excuse for a life made me feel an emotion like sympathy, but with an edge of revulsion. They belong in prison. I definitely disagree with them being let out. There's too much risk. But we could empty our prisons of minor drug violators and have a lot more room to incarcerate those who really need to be monitored and can't operate in our society. But that would make too much sense.

But they are people. Human beings. They are flawed. And their particular flaw is incompatible with a healthy society.

I understand you feeling the way you do. Trust me. (projectvxn, too. Hi! It's good to see you!) I don't hold it against you. I have just experienced something that changed my context a little and helped me to let go of the hatred, anger, evil, whatever you want to call it. And I'm grateful for it.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Abysha

Point initially being that locking people up in a cage is a psychological punishment as mush as a physical punishment...

And that's defined as torture.


Tax evasion? 5X8 cell...
Petty theft? 5X8 cell...
Unprovoked homocide? 5X8 cell...
Rape? 5X8 cell...
Marijuana possession? 5X8 cell...



Somewhere along the way we #ed up royally...


Crime & Punishment was never so necessary than when it comes to paedosadism.

I have come to deeply appreciate your insight on such matters.

What an excellent post.

a reply to: nonspecific

I agree with your OP. It IS sad to see human beings are still so blood thirsty. You'd think we might have progressed to a point where we can approach things a bit differently, but no.

Even if my child were molested, I still wouldn't want to see the perp tortured. I would be okay with them getting the death penalty though. Them being chemically castrated and being let back into the system doesn't work for me either. They still have hands, and intent.

As for people saying they want to nuke Muslims, I hear it a lot too. Disheartening I know. Yeah lets just blow them all up, nice one.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
But they are people. Human beings. They are flawed. And their particular flaw is incompatible with a healthy society.

That is exactly how I feel but never worded it so well. It is the perfect way to articulate it.

I have always felt that criminal justice should handle criminals with the motive of keeping society safe, not punishment. Punishment should come in the forms of fines or community service. Prison should be used for keeping dangerous people away from non-dangerous people.

But, as Charlie Spears pointed out, the prisons are filled with non-dangerous people for no good reason. Those non-dangerous people could be feeding the homeless in soup kitchens or planting trees in parks.

a reply to: nonspecific

I am 36 yrs old live in ohio 6ft 5 inch tall good looking white average
male two kids married for 15 years.
Unless you got to know me you would never know i spent the first 3 yrs of my
life with a ..............well long story short pedophile.
And I would say just execute the person its thier sexual preference witch will never change.
Just like you cant train gay people not to be gay lol so just put them out of harms way and their pain and execute
them. Now the other side of me says yeah cut their testicals off and burn them.
My point however is mabey the people that seem normal but say things like that may have past issues with a pedophile also

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Thanks for sharing, Benevolent.

Appreciate the insight greatly.

It makes sense to me now, you're a better person than I, I must admit.



I've never really been able to let go of "all that"...
Maybe one day I'll be less hatefilled towards them.

a reply to: projectvxn

Thanks, project... Much appreciated.

Always enjoy your input.