Everyone you know will be able to rate you on the terrifying ‘Yelp for people’

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: StallionDuck
Bill:
Hey Sam... Did you see that site, Bigamajuice? Dude, someone posted you up there

Sam:
Who cares? I do not do any of that social media crap, so I just ignore what some idiot posts.

It's not that easy. Sam may not bother with social media but the rest of the world does. It's not as easy as saying, "I don't go outside, so I'll never catch the flu". People you interact with on a daily basis, people you work with, your boss, your ever curious mom, your children do play with social media.

Another way to look at it with the same ideal. Lets say you have a young child. 13 year olds for example, don't really make the best of choices. Hell, I know MANY 18 and 21 year olds that don't make the best of choices. Wisdom may come with age, but it takes a ways up that age ladder to have enough wisdom to make rational choices. I look back 10 years ago and feel stupid for some of the choices I've made, and 10 years ago, I was still in my 30s.

Toss a child in that mix and watch their lives get ruined. I don't personally care what people think about me for the most part, but young adults and teens don't look at it that way. Their reputation IS their life. My life centers around working and trying to make a living and a life for myself. Their life centers around their friends, their family and what people think about them. They don't understand "what happens yesterday may not even be a thing today". That's only something a mature adult would consider.

This site in question is like having a criminal record without committing a crime. Sure, the site says it takes the past year off your record, but it's the internet. There is no wiping it clean. There IS no starting over. All of that information is recorded permanently on the internet whether they wipe it clean from their site or not. Many MANY servers do nothing but document the web every single second. It's stored and redisplayed. There are such sites like "wayback" that are there simply for the purpose of looking up a website and what it looked like X years ago.

I don't understand how you can be oblivious to the problems that this can cause by saying that you don't do social media and you can ignore it. It may be that simple for you, though I doubt it if you were in the crosshairs of some psycho person that wanted to ruin you for their own twisted, sick ideals, but it's not simple for millions of others who WILL be targeted.

a reply to: hammanderr

Cops too. The RateMyCop website's been around a long time. And there's an app for that now too. Makes sense it would progress to people. It sucks, but some will use and abuse it.

originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: collietta
This is known as libel. Even if the posts were anonymous, I'm sure some crafty lawyers will sue the site for libel.

It'll be interesting to see what wins, libel or "free speech."
The definition of libel from Dictionary law.com
The definition is lengthy, so below is a snippet.

libel 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue Read more: dictionary.law.com...

Since you have to volunteer and sign up to get any negative reviews, and then you have 48 hours to dispute them before they post I would that any chance at a libel suit would be out the door.

But what's to say someone doesn't get crafty in their review? Then you'd have to sign up to the app just to see what your reviews are and thus leaving you open to negative reviews.

Catch 22.

You do not need to sign up to see your reviews. And then you simply report it and have it removed. That is if you care. All the Apps like this for ratings dates, professors, doctors etc, nobody pays attention to anyway. If somebody wants to make you look bad online their are dozen easier and more effective ways to do so. And they say if people ask for it they say they will ad in an opt out option. That is if anybody cares enough to complain.

a reply to: Dreamwatcher

There are some things for which there should not be an app.

Rating human beings is one of them. For shame. May the human race look back on this with nothing but the purest contempt.

Yeah well some people put themselves out there on purpose (Facebook, Instagram, and the like). For them I have no sympathy. And it sounds like this will give you the same choice of staying away from it.

Luckily, once the app launches there will be a very, very easy way to shield oneself from it, at least partially: Don’t sign up.

Before explaining why, it’s important to know the basic safeguards that will be in place. The app’s website is down at the moment, but the FAQs can still be read in a cached version from earlier today. To sign up for Peeple, users will need to have a Facebook account that’s been active for at least six months, a cell-phone number, and be at least 21 years old (though it’s unclear how age will be verified).

Peeple also claims there will be policies in place to remove ratings that include bullying or harassing comments and to ban their authors. Julia Cordray, a recruitment specialist and entrepreneur who co-founded Peeple with Nicole McCullough, told Science of Us that the app will use both human moderators and sentiment-analysis software to catch mean reviews before they go live, but she also left herself a lot of wiggle room. That’s the plan “[as] it stands today,” she said, “but that could change at any point.” [Source]

My real beef is with the sites where you have no choice of having your personal information out there, no way to stay out or opt out, primarily those fed by the government and credit agencies and usually sold to those who profit from it. Those are the ones they need to target first.

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: collietta
This is known as libel. Even if the posts were anonymous, I'm sure some crafty lawyers will sue the site for libel.

It'll be interesting to see what wins, libel or "free speech."
The definition of libel from Dictionary law.com
The definition is lengthy, so below is a snippet.

libel 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue Read more: dictionary.law.com...

Since you have to volunteer and sign up to get any negative reviews, and then you have 48 hours to dispute them before they post I would that any chance at a libel suit would be out the door.

But what's to say someone doesn't get crafty in their review? Then you'd have to sign up to the app just to see what your reviews are and thus leaving you open to negative reviews.

Catch 22.

You do not need to sign up to see your reviews. And then you simply report it and have it removed. That is if you care. All the Apps like this for ratings dates, professors, doctors etc, nobody pays attention to anyway. If somebody wants to make you look bad online their are dozen easier and more effective ways to do so. And they say if people ask for it they say they will ad in an opt out option. That is if anybody cares enough to complain.

You can't report it to have it removed.

When the app does launch, probably in late November, you will be able to assign reviews and one- to five-star ratings to everyone you know: your exes, your co-workers, the old guy who lives next door. You can’t opt out — once someone puts your name in the Peeple system, it’s there unless you violate the site’s terms of service. And you can’t delete bad or biased reviews — that would defeat the whole purpose.

Source

You must also affirm that you “know” the person in one of three categories: personal, professional or romantic. To add someone to the database who has not been reviewed before, you must have that person’s cell phone number. (The app was originally supposed to scrape names automatically from Facebook, but the site’s API wouldn’t allow it — to Cordray’s visible annoyance.)

There is no plan for opting out. However...

If beta testers demand an opt-out feature, she’ll delay the launch date and add that in.

You're at the mercy of the beta testers. IF they decide you should be able to opt out, then and only then will it be available.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Did you miss that “but that could change at any point.” part?

If you don't sign up for it, you still can be reviewed. Reread the story. There is currently NO opting out planned. Only your "bad" reviews will be filtered but why would you let anyone review a private citizen on a public app? Supposed "positive" reviews can still be hurtful. You just have to word them right. If you're not on the site to see your review, you wont know why people are talkin crap behind your back. It's a horrible idea. It makes no sense to me what so ever how people can justify this as a good thing, or even a non issue. Shows just how little respect you have for others if you're ok with this.

a reply to: Dreamwatcher

Hah! Very appealing to my dry sense of humour and take on the human race. An ultimate spam weapon for mushy minded masses to torture themselves with. Well done you inventive blondes who came up with this idea. It is an Edgar Allen Poe worthy torture device to inflict upon humanity.

This is only worrying if you are a zombie, have zombie affiliations or are worried about what zombies think of you. Really, my fellow human entities, crap like this can only harm you if you allow it to. Jump like rats from a sinking ship away from this phoney mess they are making. Stop supporting mass trash, especially financially. If no one used silly trash apps like this then these girls would be penniless and having to earn a dollar lap dancing instead of being millionaires thanks to YOUR willingness to participate. That even works with creditors who charge huge interest. They only exist because you are willing to be the idiot who uses them.

I thank you and bow my skull to you.

ps; "auto correct" is a bilingual Russian I think.

originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Did you miss that “but that could change at any point.” part?

If you don't sign up for it, you still can be reviewed. Reread the story. There is currently NO opting out planned. Only your "bad" reviews will be filtered but why would you let anyone review a private citizen on a public app? Supposed "positive" reviews can still be hurtful. You just have to word them right. If you're not on the site to see your review, you wont know why people are talkin crap behind your back. It's a horrible idea. It makes no sense to me what so ever how people can justify this as a good thing, or even a non issue.

No I didn't miss it. Or what that part was referring to. Maybe it's your reading comprehension isn't up to par. Or maybe it's ambiguous as to what the antecedent to that line really is.

Shows just how little respect you have for others if you're ok with this.

And what the # are you talking about here? Same comment as above.

ETA: Is your avatar Henny Penny?

originally posted by: Revolution9
This is only worrying if you are a zombie, have zombie affiliations or are worried about what zombies think of you. Really, my fellow human entities, crap like this can only harm you if you allow it to.

Very true, just totally ignore it, but we know some people will be unable to, they will have to log in several times a day to see what people are saying about them!

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Apparently you did...

You:
"And it sounds like this will give you the same choice of staying away from it."

Because you used this quote:
"Luckily, once the app launches there will be a very, very easy way to shield oneself from it, at least partially: Don’t sign up."

Which isn't true. According to many sources out there, I've even added one above in my post, you can not opt out and whether you sign up or not, someone can STILL review you without your consent.

My reading skills are perfectly fine, thank you. I'm not pulling farts out of thin air. I'm actually pulling information from credible news sources.

You:
"And what the # are you talking about here? Same comment as above. "

From my comment:
"Shows just how little respect you have for others if you're ok with this."

I stand by it. It shows in your post as well as the thought of someone being ok with a site like that.

You:
"Yeah well some people put themselves out there on purpose (Facebook, Instagram, and the like). For them I have no sympathy."

Not everyone keeps their "facebook" open for all to see. There is a privacy feature. Not everyone puts their personal information on FB even if it IS public. Though, you think that just because they're on facebook, they deserve any mud slung at them, apparently. You said it yourself. "For them I have no sympathy".

Being apathetic towards others is a lack of respect toward others, no matter how you spin it.

ETA: It's none of your business what my Avatar is. Besides... I know childish, snooty sarcasm well. I'd ask about your personality but I already know what it is.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Revolution9
This is only worrying if you are a zombie, have zombie affiliations or are worried about what zombies think of you. Really, my fellow human entities, crap like this can only harm you if you allow it to.

Very true, just totally ignore it, but we know some people will be unable to, they will have to log in several times a day to see what people are saying about them!

For sure they will. Karmically speaking, perhaps they deserve this fate in full measure. Sorry, I am bursting out laughing at this point. Is that appropriate?

a reply to: StallionDuck

Wrong. If you're already put yourself out there, for profit or for popularity, because you were short-sighted, slow to see the ramifications of all the social media, you are out there for them to take advantage of now.


And you CLEARLY missed my summary about where you DON'T have the choice being the real culprit here. All the rest is on you.

My real beef is with the sites where you have no choice of having your personal information out there, no way to stay out or opt out, primarily those fed by the government and credit agencies and usually sold to those who profit from it. Those are the ones they need to target first.

I'm not apathetic. I'm just not sympathetic to those who were slow to the game.

a reply to: Ameilia

That may be harder than you think -

Positive ratings post immediately; negative ratings are queued in a private inbox for 48 hours in case of disputes. If you haven’t registered for the site, and thus can’t contest those negative ratings, your profile only shows positive reviews.

On top of that, Peeple has outlawed a laundry list of bad behaviors, including profanity, sexism and mention of private health conditions.

a reply to: Dreamwatcher

Hmmm, after further consideration and theoretical future projection I think their idea will backfire. Knowing human nature it will be the most unpopular bad ass on their who gets the most attention, lol.

Regardless of whether comments are good or bad, isn't the whole thing an invasion of privacy. I'm not sure if the Human Rights Act covers this

From Article 8

•respect for privacy when one has a reasonable expectation of privacy; and
•the right to control the dissemination of information about one’s private life, including photographs taken covertly.

although there might be some kind of loophole e.g. they might classify any information posted as 'news' about a person.

Personally I find the whole idea horrible, but I accept this might be because I'm middle aged. If I was younger I might think it was a great idea (probably not).

a reply to: ~Lucidity
I understand that some people put themselves out there and so be it. The same is true for politicians Though I honestly think that's not what all people go there for? People use that to stay in touch with family and friends. Politicians, public servants and what not, sure, by all means. I'm just referring to your average joe blow.

I didn't really miss the summary. You mentioned that the site would allow you to opt out but as it stands, it really doesn't have plans for it unless the beta testers deem it necessary. At the end, you said that you had beef with sites that didn't give you a choice and I feel the same.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, pretty much.

This is disgusting.

originally posted by: RoadCourse
a reply to: Dreamwatcher
After reading the article.....them two chick's in the pic, became the most scariest chick's I've ever seen.

You're not kidding. They look like the annoyingly snarky gossipy type, don't they?

a reply to: Dreamwatcher

Oh I love this. I can see a pile of libel suites higher than Mount Everest ... This is service will be so sued before it has even started.