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Originally posted by 99CentsStore
Gleamer please tell me you realize the pyramids, which i believe you are refering to the Giza pyramids, were build at around 2600-2400 B.C. which is about 4000 years before organized freemasonry started in the early 1700s A.D.
[edit on 3-1-2005 by 99CentsStore]
Originally posted by GLeamer
Some Puzzle Pieces
USA Freemasons comprise about 0.01% of the population.
Golfie> [sarcasm] Obviously enough to control 99.99% of the rest of the population and sway the outcome of an election to get more masonic people in power....0.01% an overwhelming majority [end sarcasm]
UFO's are real-the Government either denies or ignores the evidence.
Golfie> And this pertains to the masonic organization how?!?!?
The infiltration of the Freemasons
and their off shoot groups into high powerful
positions in Government is documented.
Golfie> Whoopie there's that 0.01% throwing it's weight around again...are you looking to try and do what England tried to do by not allowing someone to hold an office due to masonic membership? puleez...
The USA is far behind all industrial countries in services to the citizens.
Golfie> The masonic organization(s) donate well over a million dollars a DAY to charity...again how does government shorfalls turn into blaming the masons?
There is no country that has engaged in more wars(1776 -) then the USA.
Golfie> Umm that's because we're usually asked either by a country or group of countries to assist/protect/defend (Iraq not withstanding) Who does the UN call when they need military might? And how does this relate to the masons?
Americans work more hours per week then any other industrial country.
Golfie> Umm and how does this relate to the masons?
USA education is a disaster.
Golfie> Again...how does this relate to the masons?
The infiltration of the Freemasons
and their off shoot groups into high powerful
positions in Government is documented.
Golfie> Already addressed, see above
The relationship between Freemasons and religion is documented.
Golfie> Umm...Freemasons must believe in a Supreme Being/God/GAOU...so there's a religious tie...Catholic church has come out against the masons...so I wouldn't think that to be a goodthing[tm]
The Freemason are very ancient.
Golfie> So are the mummies/pyramids/solar system/bible/earth/.....the list goes on and on....just don't see your point.,...
Freemason charities go to Freemasons first.
Golfie> Bad bad Freemasons....taking care of your own first....again I don't see how this ties to a masonic world domination theory....
Freemasons call it Sacred Geometry.
Golfie> As Masonic Light has stated in another thread...this is not a masonic concept
Freemasons built/designed a great many major
buildings/roadways world wide.
Golfie> So did alot of non masons....by your own numbers 0.01% of the American population are masons....sooo assuming the same aspect ration 0.01% of all crafts people are masons....that *very* small group must have been very busy.....
Nuclear energy is dependent on geometry.
Golfie> And this is masonic how?
That there are other dimensions is now acknowledged by "science"
Golfie> You're losing me again.....
We have a tendency to stay in the now -
the immediate affect in general concerns us most.
Golfie> Getting way off the beaten path here....
Freemasons collectively are exceedingly wealthy.
Golfie> Umm I know many a mason that will gladly prove you wrong on that one.... to my knowledge they don't write you a milliion dollar check when you join...otherwise the 0.01% you refered to would be closer to teh 99.9%
If you don" think that the Freemasons are the great trouble makers of the world
-then try putting any other organizations name where Freemason is written.
Golfie> Hrmm lets try.... Instead of "Freemasons built/designed a great many major buildings/roadways world wide" we say..."The International Union Of Operating Engineers built/designed a great many major buildings/roadways world wide." Hrmm....sounds more logical to me....
I will put site on line that will go beyond the mere twaddle -
that what is stated above is true -
The documentation will be provided-
It is not for argument if there is a Freemason conspiracy.
Freemasons will not be able to post what they perceive as a defense.
Golfie> Need a valid offense to defend against....
Originally posted by GLeamer
then try putting any other organizations name where Freemason is written
Originally posted by GLeamer
The documentation will be provided-
Originally posted by GLeamer
It is not for argument if there is a Freemason conspiracy.
Originally posted by GLeamer
If a Freemason is enlightened and out of the Freemason prison and can supply information concerning the ideas discussed he will be welcome.
Originally posted by GLeamer
I do not have the need or want to debate any point with any Freemason.
The very mandates of your society make your input more then suspect.
The task ahead is daunting - the Freemasons and their running dogs are deeply entrenched in all human endevors - The furure of the USA will be micro-chipped slaves, unless ACTION is taken to make people aware.
Originally posted by GLeamerWar,War and more war is where Freemasons are most comfortable.
Originally posted by GLeamer
Mason charities are first for Masons - they have started these "charities"and "foundations" for their own ends.
Originally posted by GLeamer
This is a Christian guy and he tells a lot about the Craft -
www.geocities.com...
You cannot apply to join your local lodge but must be invited by someone already in the Society
There is some question about whether Pike actually taught that Lucifer is God or whether this is a forgery. We have noted the quotation below and even if proved to be a forgery there are enough other references to conclude that this is what he believed and implied.
To you, Soveneign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the brethren... The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Lucifer in doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay (the Christian God) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man... yes, Lucifer is god, and unfortunately Adonay is also god... There is no light without shade... for the absolute can only exist as two gods... This the doctrine of Satanism is heresy and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay, but Lucifer, God of Light and God of good is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.
In a book written in 1889 by Albert Pike, the Grand Supreme Pontiff of Freemasonry, he pinpoints its ultimate principle:
"The true and philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer,
the equal of Adonai, but Lucifer,
the god of light and of good,
is struggling for humanity"
Another pronouncement by the same Masonic supreme dated 14 February 1889, addressed to the 23 Supreme Councils of the world, within a cloud of secrecy, is historically recorded:
"To you sovereign Grand Inspector Generals, we say this. You may repeat the following statement to the 32nd, 31st and 30th degree Masons only. The Masonic Religion should be by all of us initiates of the higher degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine, for if Lucifer were not god, would Adonai (My Lord), God of the Christians bother to spread harmful statements against him. Yes, Lucifer is god.
www.sianews.com...
Lets go back a few years to 1871 and read a letter written to a man in Italy, named Mazzini, from a general in the Confederate Army from Little Rock, Arkansas named, Albert Pike. On August 15, 1871 (Feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary) Albert Pike wrote:
"We shall unleash the Nihilists and the Atheists and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which, in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, the origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, forced to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will form direction and leadership, anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to render its adoration, will receive the pure light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out into public view, a manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."...
Several of these �bogus documents� continue to surface on anti-Masonic websites. For example, the anti-Masonic hate propaganda site called �Freemasonry Watch� continues to display a fake letter supposedly written by American Mason Albert Pike to the famous Italian patriot Giuseppe Mazzini. The FW website claimed the letter was authentic, and was in the British Museum. Upon investigation, it was found that no such letter has been in the British Museum, and the curators declared it was a hoax.
Therefore, we see a web of deception woven not by the fraternity, but by those who are opposed to it.
I am a child of the Great Spirit - all I know comes through this knowledge.
Each lodge is warranted by a regional Grand Lodge. There are over 200 recognized masonic jurisdictions around the world and no central authority, although all can trace their history from either the United Grand Lodge of England (or its precurser Grand Lodges), the Grand Lodge of Scotland or the Grand Lodge of Ireland. They operate under a system of mutual recognition, working within a loose set of Landmarks defining recognized Freemasonry.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
The only actual Masonic reference I found that would cause such hate mongering
could be that there are references to the "original" Knights Templar protecting the modern day blood lines of Jesus, therefore disproving his death by crucifixion.
This of course being the whole foundation of the church.
Originally posted by GLeamer
Some Puzzle Pieces
USA Freemasons comprise about 0.01% of the population.
UFO's are real-the Government either denies or ignores the evidence.
The infiltration of the Freemasons
and their off shoot groups into high powerful
positions in Government is documented.
The USA is far behind all industrial countries in services to the citizens.
There is no country that has engaged in more wars(1776 -) then the USA.
Americans work more hours per week then any other industrial country.
USA education is a disaster.
The infiltration of the Freemasons
and their off shoot groups into high powerful
positions in Government is documented.
The relationship between Freemasons and religion is documented.
The Freemason are very ancient.
Freemason charities go to Freemasons first.
Freemasons call it Sacred Geometry.
Freemasons built/designed a great many major
buildings/roadways world wide.
Nuclear energy is dependent on geometry.
That there are other dimensions is now acknowledged by "science"
We have a tendency to stay in the now -
the immediate affect in general concerns us most.
Freemasons collectively are exceedingly wealthy.
If you don" think that the Freemasons are the great trouble makers of the world
-then try putting any other organizations name where Freemason is written.
I will put site on line that will go beyond the mere twaddle -
that what is stated above is true -
The documentation will be provided-
It is not for argument if there is a Freemason conspiracy.
Freemasons will not be able to post what they perceive as a defense.
If a Freemason is enlightened and out of the Freemason prison and can supply information concerning the ideas discussed he will be welcome.
Only anecdotal inclusion of any Freemason book
I do not have the need or want to debate any point with any Freemason.
The very mandates of your society make your input more then suspect.
The task ahead is daunting - the Freemasons and their running dogs are deeply entrenched in all human endevors - The furure of the USA will be micro-chipped slaves, unless ACTION is taken to make people aware.
War,War and more war is where Freemasons are most comfortable.
Originally posted by GLeamer
So who is the leader of the Freemasons?
Where comes this 'overwhelming" funds- do you have access to the numbers?
Where are they?
Who is the National treasurer?
Is there a world treasurer?
What are the fees for climing up the ladder?
Are there dues? and monthly dues?
Who does your accountong? Who does national counting?
Do you pay to the world network too?
Do all rites share equally?
Where can I find this information or is it all kinda hush hush?