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Official spokesperson from Secret Space program about "big picture", Aug 31/15 (Randy Cramer)?

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posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Millions of people over a period of decades, maybe.

I don't imagine all of them knowing how to build a spaceship, but some among them may. Those who don't probably make up other important aspects of the colony.

Considering nobody here knows for sure, I can speculate just like everyone else.

As for the general, I don't know. Maybe dead, maybe somebody using his name.

I do agree though, if you looked him up and he's dead.....then......well he's dead and its not him.









posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 10:02 AM
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You say that people's belief systems will be shattered .. well bring it on.

Sorry mate, but having one person saying something so obscure is no different than the other millions of people who are preaching every day about a fictional character in their dedicated buildings.

You say I have to be open minded .. well again, where is the difference between you and a pastor who preaches about god?

I would love to believe you but I have to put faith and trust you that you saying the truth and don't bullc** me. But on such a topic, you can't. It's simply to big.

So here is how you can help me - if there is a genuine interest by Aliens in disclose their presence, then tell them to do so - because that's the only way you will get widespread support - not by words - but by actions.



posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: EA006
Classic moves though, people asking you for proof/evidence.
Like you can provide it......


But Randy Cramer and Corey Goode could easily provide evidence.....if what they are saying is true.



posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 10:43 AM
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originally posted by: InhaleExhale

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: InhaleExhale

I think he wrote somewhere else on his channel that he has had to slow the video down quite a bit due to the speed of these things, so the time counter is not moving because less than one second elapses as it moves across the whole screen.



Then its a period where people like yourself push their agendas, give them their 15 min of fame of all to be forgotten and then rehashed some time later by another.

Its a roller coaster ride watching some jump on the band wagon when ever a new one or a rehashed one comes along,

Its both concerning and entertaining,

I get a laugh but also weep for the aware and awoken, the ones with eyes and ears open when all they express is blindness and being in a deeper sleep than the so called sheeple they say are still asleep.

back in 2012 you were on one those band wagons and have been jumping on new ones ever since you have been a member.

When you started to get into social conditioning I thought you might figured it out or being the right track, but it seems you didn't want look at how alternative media is a big a culprit of conditioning sheeples, Oops, I mean peoples minds as you think the MSM does.

Love your work, no matter how insane or out there some of it might sound to me, its great to read ideas and get some insight on how others think, express themselves and interact.



Not sure why you are so interested in analyzing me in many of my threads and/or posts. Not sure if I should be flattered or crept out.

Anyway, I am irrelevant. Whether I am b@ts#it crazy or Stephen Hawking intelligent, I am just forwarding information to this forum.

Sure I give my opinion, but it has no bearing on the truth of the premise - I'm not sure if you realize the same.



posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: EA006
Classic moves though, people asking you for proof/evidence.
Like you can provide it......


But Randy Cramer and Corey Goode could easily provide evidence.....if what they are saying is true.



What kind of evidence would convince you?



posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: EA006
Classic moves though, people asking you for proof/evidence.
Like you can provide it......


But Randy Cramer and Corey Goode could easily provide evidence.....if what they are saying is true.



What kind of evidence would convince you?


ev·i·dence
ˈe-və-dən(t)s, -və-ˌden(t)s
noun
: something which shows that something else exists or is true

That kind.



posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: PlanetXisHERE




I am just forwarding information to this forum.


Hence the reason for me saying I love your work.




Not sure why you are so interested in analyzing me in many of my threads and/or posts. Not sure if I should be flattered or crept out.


Its not you, its everybody, I like to analyse, remember what one said previously and how that might correspond or contradict with what they say presently and might say in the future

You can flatter or creep yourself out all you want.

Isn't that being a little egotistic,

Couldn't it be the info you bring forth that strikes people interest and that is why they post?




Sure I give my opinion, but it has no bearing on the truth of the premise - I'm not sure if you realize the same.


Actually its ironic you say that, many times you imply the exact opposite, one example being a hill on the moon.

You were convinced it wasn't and arguing your opinion as though you were convinced it was fact and dismissing logic brought forth by so many.




Anyway, I am irrelevant.


Yes and no, no one is irrelevant in my eyes, everyone has something to share.

Yes as per the topic discussion,

Like I said, I think these guys have deep seeded issues, they might believe what they say but deceive their audience by saying they are directly involved.



posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 11:57 AM
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Millions of people over a period of decades, maybe.


Only specific people would be used to build a secret space program...if that many went missing it would make people look closely at why.



I do agree though, if you looked him up and he's dead.....then......well he's dead and its not him.


And Randy Cramer never went to Mars.



posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: EA006
Classic moves though, people asking you for proof/evidence.
Like you can provide it......


But Randy Cramer and Corey Goode could easily provide evidence.....if what they are saying is true.



What kind of evidence would convince you?


A selfie with one of the bird people he's supposed to be in physical contact with.

A feather for DNA testing.

Some demonstration of this precognitive ability he supposedly possesses.

Some kind of specific corroborating evidence about the sixty million people who supposedly have been abducted for this project.

Some kind of corroborating evidence about the earthbound personnel and facilities that would have to be in place for this secret space program.

Some coordinates for the alleged spacecraft human and otherwise so their existence could be confirmed from earth.

Some names of earth bound personnel supposedly involved in this that could be checked out.

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posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 03:02 PM
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I like how there is only excuses once people demand some kind of viable evidence. Again nothing else than trying to "sell" a story and get people to buy into it.. worked for a lot of institutions in the past thousands years. I think religion did the best job so far. They turned it around so you can question whatever you want and it looks like they never run out of an argument or just go silent - still people buy into it. The socialists did the same thing - not to mentioned the Nazi's who mastered the game in 10 years rather 2000 years and still have followers to date - regardless of their actions.

This whole thing is not different. Tell a story, keep it nice and dark and get people believe in it...

Seriously, how many here really believe his story without a doubt? I bet nobody can truly answer this with "Yes" and what's the point of this story anyway? Is there a book coming out?

Why is it when these story's break out that there is never - I mean never - any good - or even half-good evidence?

If Aliens trade with Earth - they sure have a smartphone. Take a selfie. YouTube allows to live stream. Send one of those ships to Mars and do a live transmission standing next to Curiosity and send the stream back. It's all viable and humans already achieved that milestone so it should be pretty simple for an "advanced" alien race.

Otherwise it's all fluff and bluff Marketing.



posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 04:33 PM
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Well, lets start with his facts that present science based problems.

"Q: Where do trade deals occur in the solar system, is there some kind of conference center? @32:30
A: Yes, there is a large space station orbiting Jupiter or near Jupiter. "

Now, what intellectually advanced species would put a space station in orbit around the biggest asteroid magnet in our solar system. Any and all asteroid and meteors with a nearby course get sucked in towards Jupiter.....
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posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: EA006
Classic moves though, people asking you for proof/evidence.
Like you can provide it......


But Randy Cramer and Corey Goode could easily provide evidence.....if what they are saying is true.



What kind of evidence would convince you?


ev·i·dence
ˈe-və-dən(t)s, -və-ˌden(t)s
noun
: something which shows that something else exists or is true

That kind.


Well, there are these extremely fast flying triangles that can only be seen with night vision, not absolute proof of all the info, but an indication that some force is patrolling the upper atmosphere, which does dovetail with the information:



Cool flying triangle at 22secs, slowed down so that the time counter does not elapse one second:



You can compare the above flying objects with the night vision of airliners below, the airliners are significantly slower, have the expected strobe flashing, are brighter with no triangular appearance:




posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: br0ker
Well, lets start with his facts that present science based problems.

"Q: Where do trade deals occur in the solar system, is there some kind of conference center? @32:30
A: Yes, there is a large space station orbiting Jupiter or near Jupiter. "

Now, what intellectually advanced species would put a space station in orbit around the biggest asteroid magnet in our solar system. Any and all asteroid and meteors with a nearby course get sucked in towards Jupiter.....


Perhaps it is there because of the strength of the gravitational fields in the area which is used by some of the technology.

IF this info is true, I'm not 100% sold but interested and would like to investigate like a true scientist or skeptic, not dismiss without investigation like some kind of biased luddite, they certainly have the technology to detect/evade/destroy such objects.

Plus Jupiter makes a good landmark. Say, in another system, they are discussing this trade center. One being wants to know how to get there. They are told - just look for the big red planet with the big spot - you can't miss it. Then look for the space station with that has most of its docking ports occupied - that is the one.



posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 07:09 PM
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IF this info is true, I'm not 100% sold but interested and would like to investigate like a true scientist or skeptic, not dismiss without investigation like some kind of biased luddite, they certainly have the technology to detect/evade/destroy such objects.


Ah - we are in the "reduction" phase - looks like the Social Experiment failed and people didn't buy it ..



Plus Jupiter makes a good landmark. Say, in another system, they are discussing this trade center. One being wants to know how to get there. They are told - just look for the big red planet with the big spot - you can't miss it. Then look for the space station with that has most of its docking ports occupied - that is the one.


I think someone is playing to much Star Citizen ...


Now, whats more interesting is that you are replying to everyone who goes towards your direction but ignore the confrontation with those who are not buying it ... or is it just me?



posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: flyandi

This was my fourth post on the first page:


originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: Macenroe82
Good post. always have been interested in what randy has to say. Mind blowing if its true.


If true........yes, I'm not 100% sold, but it dovetails with much other info and whistleblowers (even though Randy claims he is not one), Corey Goode comes to mind.....


So I have been consistent about not 100% believing it from the get go. And the last part about Jupiter being a good landmark was just a joke.......do they have humor where you are from?

This website is about discussing conspiracy theories. Did I do something wrong by posting this topic?

I enjoy discussing different points of view with people who can have an adult conversation, which may get a little heated but at least there exists some respect or at least an absence of outright immaturity/hostility.

I don't enjoy discussing issues with posters that attempt to use emotional engagement or ego diminishment tactics as these are either just unhappy grumpy people or obvious disinfo tactics.

There are some reasonable posters whose posts I might not get to because I missed them, I'm busy and have other threads as well as a life, Erik made some good points a while back and I just haven't gotten around to addressing them and I do feel bad because he (I assume he) is an intelligent person and seems to have integrity.

Feel free to re-post any questions you feel are pertinent, and if I haven't addressed them and they are not nasty I will attempt to address them. However I ask for some leeway as I am not Randy Cramer nor do I claim to know everything.




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posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 11:08 PM
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Has anyone mentioned that after his "20 year tour," his mind was sent back in time into his 17 year old body on the night he was originally taken? This eliminates the need for him to have been missing for 20 years, which would have provided minimal corroboration of his story. I believe in the UFO phenomenon, but this guy is just insane or lying. I don't believe a single word he says.

Why doesn't he provide the name of one of the hundreds of people he met in space that could corroborate his story? (Assuming their mind have been sent back in time before they left too).
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posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 11:44 PM
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originally posted by: andrewh7
...but this guy is just insane or lying.

Gee, you think? The fact that anyone actually believes this idiocy is mind boggling.
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posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 01:43 AM
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I'm sorry for any unnecessary anger with my post but before I even go into our space endeavours, can someone please explain why I see bubbles in live space walks fur the public to see?

Sure hrs



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 01:50 AM
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originally posted by: iFloButta
I'm sorry for any unnecessary anger with my post but before I even go into our space endeavours, can someone please explain why I see bubbles in live space walks fur the public to see?

Sure hrs

You don't. There are a whole host of experiments you can see done in space that can't be done on Earth.

The ISS can be seen from Earth.


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posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 01:51 AM
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can someone please explain why I see bubbles in live space walks fur the public to see?

No.
But then, I can't explain why some people see six foot rabbits, either.
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