Murder Rates Rising Sharply in Many U.S. Cities

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: redhorse

Perhaps it has to do with the accepted premise that males are more prone to violence than females. Therefore an allusion to phallic symbols would be appropriate.

No?

No.

Testosterone is associated with aggression. That is why men are more violent.

Those hormones that make men more prone to violence do not necessarily have anything to do with some blanket insecurity about penis size or even an association with a phallic symbol for every man who uses a gun. That is ridiculous.

originally posted by: Kryties
If by "so far" you mean several DECADES......

No hope required by the way. It doesn't take a genius to figure out.

You know what? Keep your damn guns, wall off your entire country and the rest of us will sit back with a beer and watch the fun.

Hmmm...If I'm not mistaken, you just cherry-picked something out of my comment and ignored the meat of the argument in order to try and prove your biased point. Isn't that what you were railing against during the majority of your comments on this thread?

What about my valid point that you're comparing unlike things? What about my valid point that it's just as easy to prove that Americans are also peaceful who own guns more so than they are criminally deadly with them? What about hundreds and thousands of years of civilized societies that bring along the proof that no amount of laws stops bad people from doing bad things?

You can have your beer and watch--that's fine--but don't ignore the meat of my argument in order to ramble incoherently in hopes of trying to trap me in some ideologically driven point that you're trying to make. Our second amendment isn't about stopping violence, it's about a right that cannot be infringed that is guaranteed in the constitution--and it's there for a reason, and if you can't comprehend that reason then this entire discussion is pointless.

originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
I can't wait to read your treatise.

$h!t happens and it is our prerogative to ask why said $h!t happens. That is what unites us. Speculation can be healthy if it is used in moderation.

What is going on in this thread far surpasses healthy speculation...and I don't need to formulate a treatise on anything, as my point is valid without having to go into detail as to why.

Asking why is fine--I said as much in my comment--but speculating with feigned knowledge on the subject is not.

a reply to: Kryties

LOL...you can't speak for "most of the world."

And you're quite comical--it's as if you know nothing about the violence, corruption, murders, etc. of the many nations that are under communist and socialist governments. The difference there is that it's not a few individuals taking out a 10 or 20 people, it's national governments systematically doing the same on a much larger scale.

But, yes, America is the insane nation.

Look for yourself--America is ranked number 111 in intentional homicides per 100,000 people. That means that there are 109 countries in this world (who report this sort of thing) that have worse intentional homicide rates than us, plus two that tie with us.

But if someone were to listen to you, it's like America is number one by a dramatic margin, and that is not the case.

You are a perfect example of an ideologue who has jumped on the bash-America-and-her-gun-owners bandwagon. Sure, our homicide rates could be lower, but they could be a helluva lot worse, too. I'm not proud to be basically smack dab in the middle of the list, but I'll tell ya, an intentional-homicide rate (per 100,000) of 4.7 sure beats the rate in Honduras of 90.4, or Venezuela of 53.7, or the U.S. Virgin Islands of 52.6, or Belize of 44.7, or El Salvador of 41.2, or Guatemala of 39.9, or... Hell, Brazil had more than 50,000 intentional homicides in 2012, according to this list. That's more than three times as many as the United States had. And I'm quite certain that all of these countries have prohibitive gun laws and laws against murder (not that anything says most of these homicides were from firearms, but the point remains the same).

So, just save your hyperbole for people who don't have knowledge about comparing intentional homicide rates between countries--your thinly veiled attempt at sounding authoritative on the subject is disintegrating before our very eyes. I have a desire to just grab a beer and sit back and watch it disappear.

originally posted by: DEANORULES24
a reply to: IShotMyLastMuse

It's not GUNS !!
It's DRUGS, CRACK , PIlls ,Heroin !!

No it's not any of the above either. It's the prohibition of those things, which drives selling them into dodgy underground hands who think nothing of killing each other for the turf.

Make it all legal, sell it in pharmacies, slap a warning in the packets and see how all drug related shootings go down to zero.

a reply to: Hecate666

agreed. too bad they can't legalize it and just hire the drug lords to sell the crap. two problems solved, one stone. would also lighten the load on the prison system

double post. need a new mouse.

originally posted by: redhorse

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: redhorse

Perhaps it has to do with the accepted premise that males are more prone to violence than females. Therefore an allusion to phallic symbols would be appropriate.

No?

No.

Testosterone is associated with aggression. That is why men are more violent.

Those hormones that make men more prone to violence do not necessarily have anything to do with some blanket insecurity about penis size or even an association with a phallic symbol for every man who uses a gun. That is ridiculous.

*facepalm*

Reading comprehension FTW!!

It's people! We have a people problem....inanimate objects have no ill will to you. Lets cut the BS and talk about our ever increasing number of crazy and pissed off people we have running around today... It's people, not objects that are the problem.

Interesting statistic!

I May have a possible answer?

The magnetosphere has only this year been indicating vast "eddy pools" that Have begun in earnest since around January.

This interference is because of the magnetic effects of Planet X and yes I have more images that are mounting up that I will post in time after they are organized.

Surely this unprecedented magnetism is causing stress to humans in some form? Resulting in erratic,violent and irrational behavior and outbursts? I have picked up that this may be the case?

Here's the proof:

poleshift.ning.com...

a reply to: EndOfDays77

The magnetosphere has been weakening for the last 150 years or so, and accelerating as time passes.

The indications of a pole-shift are there, but no experience with the occurrence in human history. Therefore, the when is anyone's guess.

Planet x has nothing to do with anything. I find it hard to believe that is still being tossed around. Obviously if planet x were involved then it would have to be close enough to be seen by the naked eye... looked last night and didnt see it.

I am pretty sure that if planet x were close enough to screw with the magnetosphere then we would be seeing some odd tidal action as well... I am also pretty sure that is not happening.

a reply to: EndOfDays77

That website, btw, does not allow debunking and/or dissension. So agree or else!!! lol

originally posted by: surfinguru
How about it's a result of people completely feed up with the systemic political corruption within our government (all levels), crappy economy since 2008, lack of hope/opportunity for improving one's financial disposition and increasing racial tensions?

Oh wait, let's just blame it all on an inanimate object instead...

There is also a push by Latino gangs in many of these big cities, especially sanctuary cities where they have much more freedom to operate.
Let's see: Chicago, Philly - both are sanctuary cities.
Wouldn't surprise me if the others were as well or that every city with such a stupid policy is also seeing a similar rise in murders.

Eta: New Orleans, D.C., Dallas TX, Baltimore - all sanctuary cities.
Even if it is black on black killings it would be over a shrinking market share being unable to challenge the power of a gang like MS13.
Congratulations to every sanctuary city for helping to make narco-gangs feel safe.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

While obviousy I have no clue what is driving the massive increase in murders in other cities, I can state categorically that the increase in Dallas murders and violent crime is not gang related.

originally posted by: eluryh22
a reply to: xuenchen

It's not by accident. It's by design.

"They" are waiting for things to get so completely out of control that "they" will have to turn towards a Federal Police Force.

Sorry, but we were well past that point a long time ago when the federal government handed out "excess" military gear to our police forces.
Brainwashing them with lectures like this, teaching them that our founding fathers were terrorists.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You got your character torn up didn't you?

a reply to: bbracken677
What makes you think that?

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: Bennyzilla

Hard to believe anything you have to say after you refer to guns as a "penis-extension".

It's hard to take anyone seriously who cherry picks a small part of the total post and ignores the main chunk of it.

It's also hard to take anyone seriously who dismisses proven facts that don't jive with their world view.

Proven facts like cities with the strictest gun laws have the worst gun crime?

Speaking of willful ignorance

Sure am glad they banned Meth!, that could have gotten out of control!

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

It's probably the 1 out of 4 people with criminal backgrounds having issues with credit and background checks.

a reply to: IShotMyLastMuse

Enjoy your opinion about our guns as you wish, perhaps you will come to see it's value with your new influx of"'friends" from the middle east.
At least HERE they are subdued as a resuly of American arms,as is any counry who who seek to invade.
We aren't cowed by isolated incidents of nutballs and criminals and I for one will never accept any legislation measured by them to control ME.
It is a matter of record we kill more with our bare hands and feet than ANY other weapon,I suppose YOU would see such offensive appendages CUT OFF.