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While a permanent resident, I am here as a guest, and my carrying my "greencard" is a reasonable step on the path to becoming a proud American -- "reasonable" because any nation needs to know whom it lets in, as part of its responsibility to the security of its citizens
I would tell the Committee [Congressional Committee on Immigration] that the immigration problem is not so difficult to solve. Secure the border simply because security is the first duty of government, and then do the following.
First, prohibit anyone who has committed a visa/immigration violation from ever becoming a permanent resident (and therefore citizen) of the country...
Second, limit family-based immigration to immediate family only. Allow a new citizen to sponsor only his spouse and children into the country - and perhaps, if he can prove the means to support them, elderly parents when they need care. No more uncles, aunties, cousins, grandmothers etc...
Third, send a test case to the supreme court regarding the 14th amendment... This amendment was passed in 1868 to ensure that all persons, including slaves and their progeny, could be citizens of the nation. Children of diplomats, foreign visitors or similar aliens are not included. Nor was the amendment intended to extend to children of illegal immigrants who perhaps more than any, are not subject to the jurisdiction of this country.
As an immigrant we often see a different side of the legal versus illegal immigration debate. We have a unique view of what it feels like to not be a naturally born citizen. We have a unique view into why some people work so hard to be able to come, live, and work here...
My parents worked hard their whole lives to come here legally. They did that because they love this country enough to respect her laws. To respect her need to secure her border. To respect her desire to protect her own against those who wish to bring harm into her lands.
originally posted by: TsukiLunar
Let's do it! Round them up and give them citizenship! Way it won't be illegal anymore. And the ones that commit crimes will be arrested and I guess the right can put them in prison.
I also think that if we get them all in one place we could acknowledge their existence as human beings, instead of just statistics or ideas. You know, abstract titles like "anchor baby" and "border hopper" are not things that actually exist. You are literally referring to nothing when you say it.
All this hold up is meaningless. We could be improving the lives of people, instead they abandon towns in the darkness of night to run from us. And they still prefer that over their other country.
Where is the empathy?
originally posted by: cmdrkeenkid
What about the hundreds, thousands, and more of people who have immigrated to the United States legally? The people who have given blood, sweat, tears, and years of their lives to become American citizens the legal way? Are you really that apt to just spit in their faces?
Let's round them up, sure. But send them back.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: blondegiraffe
I think lives are more important than money, don't you?
The "illegals" risk their lives coming over here. I think the fact that people have the money to buy citizenship is an insult to the people who almost die coming here.
If you don't think the non-documented work hard, you haven't been paying attention.
originally posted by: Hecate666
I learned from this thread that all illegal immigrants are hard working upstanding human beings that all have a hungry family to feed and are eternally grateful to their host nation. All of them, without exceptions.
oh - kayyyy
originally posted by: Phage
The law don't work. Congress needs to fix it. But they won't. Why is that?