Texas will Secede from the Union, 81,000 signatures!

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Violater1

But Texas only balanced their budget due to Obama's stimulus program!

Turns out Texas was the state that depended the most on those very stimulus funds to plug nearly 97% of its shortfall for fiscal 2010, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Texas, which crafts a budget every two years, was facing a $6.6 billion shortfall for its 2010-2011 fiscal years. It plugged nearly all of that deficit with $6.4 billion in Recovery Act money, allowing it to leave its $9.1 billion rainy day fund untouched.

Source

I guess the White House response may have something to say about that.

Even as Perry requested the Recovery Act money, he railed against it. On the very same day he asked for the funds, he set up a petition titled "No Government Bailouts."

LOL! Perry for Texas President!

Your only source is CNN, and they would never lie(sarcasm) Sources for CNN lies: www.redflagnews.com... gencies-for-specific-content

theconservativetreehouse.com... of-my-questions/
investmentwatchblog.com... s/

Looks like it got up to 125,000 signatures (but the petition is closed now), and it did get an official response from the White House - the kind of generic response you would expect (America is strongest when we all stick together, blah, blah). I was curious to see a ton of signatures from people not even in Texas. That seems a little disingenuous to me.

.3% of our population. this will go nowhere at all

Name change to Mexico 2 Is also on the petition one hopes.

Actually their economy would be worse than Mexico's.

So maybe Mexican Sub.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Puppylove
So would they be a country then? Not sure I get how this works.

It won't. 81,000 signatures will get a response on the lines of: "This is amusing but it don't mean a hill o' beans." This is one of those pointless petitions. How many people have signed up to get the White House to look into if Elvis Presley and Lord Lucan kidnapped Shergar?

That may be, but as the numbers grow it may force Texas to have a real referendum. On the other matter of balancing budgets and bailouts, if Texas had a 6.6 b deficit and they were 9.1 b in surplus, it seems that if the paid down the deficit themselves they would still have a surplus of 2.5 billion. So they did have a balanced budget with surplus and like any government took the extra money because it was there.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

What it is now with Federal support is not what it would be without.

originally posted by: Violater1
Perhaps Operation Jade Helm really has an alternate plan. Why would the gobermnt want to reclaim Texas if it is as worthless as some members say?

The economy of Texas is one of the largest economies in the United States. As of 2015, Texas is home to six of the top 50 companies on the Fortune 500 list and 51 overall, (third most after New York and California).[10] In 2012, Texas grossed more than $264.7 billion a year in exports—more than exports of California ($161.9 billion) and New York ($81.4 billion) combined.[11][12][13] As a sovereign country (2014), Texas would be the 12th largest economy in the world by GDP (ahead of South Korea and Australia).[14]

Texas has a gross state product of $1.648 trillion (2014)[15] the second highest in the U.S.

We lead in cotton production, we lead in cereal grains, we lead in cattle production........thats food and clothes that helps fuel and clothe the rest of the country......

We lead the nation in Energy, we also lead the nation in ALTERNATIVE energy.....

We have a huge aeronautics industry

And we produce a lot of military hardware.....

So yeah, its not like were all stupid and worthless down here in Texas

a reply to: ~Lucidity

They're gonna need a bigger fence?

No, we will need to build a fence to keep all them damned illegal Texans from crossing the border to have anchor babies, getting welfare and free Obamacare.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

What it is now with Federal support is not what it would be without.

Compensated by the fact that there would then be higher prices for our goods and trade agreements were Texas to secede

Again as mentioned above we have huge industries and lead other states in those industries.......

If Texas seceded, there would be negotiations and prices changes to access those goods and services you can bet

Not only that Texas wouldnt be beholden to being Taxed from Washington

on the contrary were it to happen (which it wont) I believe many companies would Flood to Texas as fast as they could to get out from under the Tax codes , and not have to go over seas

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Looks like it got up to 125,000 signatures (but the petition is closed now), and it did get an official response from the White House - the kind of generic response you would expect (America is strongest when we all stick together, blah, blah). I was curious to see a ton of signatures from people not even in Texas. That seems a little disingenuous to me.

That does sound suspicious, do you have a source?

originally posted by: Violater1
Perhaps Operation Jade Helm really has an alternate plan. Why would the gobermnt want to reclaim Texas if it is as worthless as some members say?

The goberment wouldn't have to reclaim it. After the first year and Texas goes broke because America would pull all of it's troops and equipment out so they would have to pay to defend themselves. Also their colleges would go broke after the Pell grant funding would be cut off not to mention the billion dollars a year they get from FEMA. And let's not forget all the oil pumped into Texas would immediate be cut off until new agreements with the now foreign state would have to be made. Texas would come crawling back to America to rejoin because it's either America or Mexico.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

OK of you go then! Have fun with that kids!

originally posted by: Violater1
Your only source is CNN,

There are MANY sources for the well-known fact that Texas used Obama's stimulus to balance its budget.

www.thewire.com...
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Texas Used Stimulus to Cover 97% of Its Deficit

a reply to: Violater1

Yeah, the petition itself. There's a link to it in your article. Just scroll down the petition and you will see the individual signatures.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

or we could just get it cheaper from Asia, South America, Canada or the middle east

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

As far as I know, that's all correct. Texas is also the biggest leach when it comes to billions in federal disaster relief. Just a couple months ago the Governor was asking for more money.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

We have a huge aeronautics industry

Who funds that aeronautic industry? Oh yeah the federal government.

We lead in cotton production, we lead in cereal grains, we lead in cattle production.

Who pays subsidies to these farmers? Oh yeah the federal government.

And we produce a lot of military hardware.

Who pays for this hardware to be built and who buys it? Oh yeah the federal government.

So yeah, its not like were all stupid and worthless down here in Texas

It's not like Texans are the brightest bulbs in the socket either.

Does no one remember this same petition from a few years ago?

It got like 300,000 signatures and nothing happened.

This is so silly. Nothing else in the news today? Texas will not secede, and will never try. Short of this country and our form of government being destroyed, Texas is in it for the long haul.

"Hey Bob, what silly topic can I post today?"

"Well, why not post something about Texas seceding. That's always fun, and we get to bash Texas."

"Thanks Bob. Consider it done."

Must be Saturday, all the kiddies are at home.

SMH

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: crazyewok
Good for the USA without Texas they may be able to finally teach REAL science in state schools

Wow, that statement is almost as ignorant as you suppose Texans are

Its called humor..............

Insulting a whole group of people is called humor?

Odd that, Im usually pretty spot on with my British humor.......