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originally posted by: DeviantMortal
Some people believe it to based on the "13th Zodiac Sign" and it is linked to Imhotep who oddly enough had advanced understanding of medicine for his time.
originally posted by: rexsblues
originally posted by: John333
its been the symbol for medicine since the beginning of ancient spiritual ascendence. the caduceus. its in sumeria, its in egypt, its everywhere right up and past the romans to today.
opinionating while still studying like this is what causes all the confusion about spirituality and true spiritual access in this world. i say this, becausewhat im about to say will probably stun you. but.. moses carried the caduceus to heal his followers when they were led through the wilderness and bitten by venomous snakes. whats even better, God himself instructed him to make it and have those bitten gaze upon it to be saved.
you have much to learn before u speak of 'un-christian things'. there is no such thing. the occult is christian as are all religions on the planet. snakes are not evil. no in fact they are wise.
"be as wise as serpents' - this jesus said to his disciples when instructing them on how to spread the word of God. sure the serpent in the garden seems evil. and hes at the beginning of the book so all serpents must be evil too right? nope. but im sorry if this is going to mess with your head. but that serpent wasnt evil either.
you have much to learn. id say.. start by not labelling anything u just started researching evil. evil is the flesh. physicality.
when ur ready ill explain to you how gazing ipon the caduceus can bring you salvation from snakes that bite your heel and cause you to fall.
game of snakes and ladders anyone.
oh and btw... hi
Welcome to ATS John, where the most intelligently thought out and logically correct answer goes largely unappreciated, if not completely ignored.
For those who are as confused as the OP, want to know what evil is? It's a four letter word for ignorance.
Notice how much negativity and ignorant superstition your injecting into a pretty mundane and peaceful symbol. Notice the environment of fear you're creating through your ignorance. How far will you go to prove your superstitious "evil" is real? Imprison? Banish? Torment? Torture? Kill? ...Burn at the stake? See how this TRUTH is evident through out history?
Deny Ignorance... and think before you post.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: John333
im so sorry but a forum isnt good enough for me to say everything i can about these topics.
Paragraphs might help.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: John333
satan was spirit in paradise. just like the serpent.. as obviously all in the garden were perfect beings.. including adam and eve at the time before the fall.
here on earth we experience satan not as spirit ut as carnal desire. no not because uve never seen satan means hes not real or in spirit form. the ego desires of the flesh are satan's manifestation.. in man. the spiritual desires which we tend to neglect in favour of material satisfaction and comfort. so no you cannot invoke, evoke or summon satan. he is you. the flesh part of you. your spirit, is God's sinless spirit which he has imparted to you. we're touching the paradox. its metaphors, symbolism. its fiction but not fiction. the personified form of materialistic drive is satan. it is inherent in all living things who have yet to get in touch with their higher spiritual identity and its moral behaviour. take away the spirit from the body and u are left symbolically with pure satan. a robot, without a conscience, just its programming to keep it going. survive, eat, have sex, fight for territory to minimize resistance from accessing your food source to keep survivng.. for no reason at all.
your task here... prevent the desires of the flesh from corrupting your spirit. allow the spirit to be driver and not the body. the body/flesh is gonna probably get you comforts, but it cannot give you eternal life in an eternal state in the heavenly realms. so.. we choose. dont take the bible stories too literally. they are what i call fictional truths. truths encoded in works of fiction with history incorporated to convey a message. a moral of the story. the message is more important than the story. so you need to get the message. most important thing.
look to the sumerian story. the evil dragon was destroyed and its body used to create the flesh of man. genesis was formed from those sumerian stories. the message was extracted and restructured into a new story.. genesis. same message.. just a different way of telling it.
Why would you assume that Sumerian creation myth preceded Canaanite (Proto-Hebrew) creation? Where is your evidence?
Perhaps Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian myth copied from an earlier Canaanite source? There were, most definitely, Canaanite tribes in existence before the Sumerian empire. The Sumerian culture was of Canaanite origin.
originally posted by: Aleister
I've heard it said (by holding a glass up against a wall and eavesdropping) that the staff and snakes represent the kundalini flow up the spine.
8-9 Then God spoke to Moses and Aaron. He said, “When Pharaoh speaks to you and says, ‘Prove yourselves. Perform a miracle,’ then tell Aaron, ‘Take your staff and throw it down in front of Pharaoh: It will turn into a snake.’”
In Roman iconography, it was often depicted being carried in the left hand of Mercury, the messenger of the gods, guide of the dead and protector of merchants, shepherds, gamblers, liars, and thieves.
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Agartha
Ok now we know that isn't the real symbol.
It's just the one being used everywhere.
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